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  • ebu@awful.systems
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    9 hours ago

    maybe iā€™m a weirdo but i actually really like this a lot. if there werenā€™t armies of sycophants chanting outside of all our collective windows about how AI is the future of gamingā€¦ if you look at this ā€œgameā€ as an art object unto itself i think it is actually really engaging

    it reminds me of other ā€œgamesā€ like Marian Kleinebergā€™s Wave Function Collapse and Bananaftā€™s Yedoma Globula. thereā€™s one other on the tip of my tongue where you uploaded an image and it constantly reprojected the image onto the walls of a first-person walking simulator, but i donā€™t recall the name

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      6 hours ago

      I do like it also, but notice how they try to hide most of these strange effects in their demo video. Theyā€™re trying to pass it off as a playable minecraft. Anything interesting about the technology is a defect to these people.

      They also claim this is ā€œthe first playable AI-generated gameā€ when the exact same sort of thing already existed in 2022 (and it looked a lot more efficient and haunted): https://madebyoll.in/posts/game_emulation_via_dnn/ Maybe it doesnā€™t count if you call it ā€œNeural networkā€ instead of ā€œAIā€.

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        2 hours ago

        That article gave me a whiplash. First part: pretty cool. Second part: deeply questionable.

        For example these two paragraphs from sections ā€˜problem with codeā€™ and ā€˜magic of dataā€™:

        ā€œModular and interpretable codeā€ sounds great until you are staring at 100 modules with 100,000 lines of code each and someone is asking you to interpret it.

        Regardless of how complicated your programā€™s behavior is, if you write it as a neural network, the program remains interpretable. To know what your neural network actually does, just read the dataset

        Well, ā€œjust read the dataset broā€ sound great sounds great until you are staring at a dataset with 100 000 examples and someone is asking you to interpret it.

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        4 hours ago

        yeah, that ā€œmost of the internet will be Al-generatedā€ nonsense is tanking my ability to take them as domain experts seriously.

        still, something gets me about completely generated, transient-when-youā€™re-not-looking, constantly shifting worlds. might have to collect more examples