• luciferofastora@lemmy.zip
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    19 days ago

    But I also like the saying “If you want peace prepare for war”.

    It’s the cornerstone of the Security Dilemma: Increasing your own state’s security by increasing military strength may be threatening to other states that don’t know whether you’re just improving defenses or gearing up for an offensive war.

    Particularly in pre-modern times where land was more valuable (compared to developing the land you already have) and battle wasn’t so destructive, war was more profitable, the threat was real. With the development of modern arms and mass mobilisation escalating the scale and destruction of war, the distinction between defensive and offensive militarisation is even harder to tell, and even though it’s not as lucrative, we haven’t outgrown the martial impulses so the issue remains.

    So because you want to be safe, you improve your military. Because you improve your military, your neighbour fears for their own safety, so they improve theirs. This is why international relations and diplomacy are so important to prevent a runaway arms race.

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      19 days ago

      Yes, its a very sad dilemma.

      I believed for quite a long time (living in Germany) that this state of “peace by codependency” could be extended, even maybe applied worldwide, but I’m not so sure anymore. I still want this to be true, however.

      But a defenseless state is still a very nice target. I’m not so blind as to miss both sides of the US protection, and the limitations and freedoms that come with it.

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        18 days ago

        I think we - collectively, as humanity, not any particular subgroup - need to get over that greedy, jealous, tribal “us vs. them” mindset that feeds nationalism, turns demographies against each other and leads to that security dilemma in the first place.

        It made sense when our individual survival hinged on competing for the best land, subsequently forming groups to further that claim and drive others from their land to increase your own margin of subsistence.

        But with modern farming, logistics, administrative capabilities and real-time communications across the globe, I think we should be able to do better by working together instead of against each other.

        Of course, that would require people who like power to stop reaching for more and more, and that is an issue I don’t think I need to lay out in detail.

        living in Germany

        Your username and instance kinda gave it away, comfortable cushion ;-)

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          18 days ago

          Forming groups is still important. We need it to find our place in the world. There is no single truth, therefore we argue and fight.
          Not saying anything you said is wrong, btw. Just wanted to state why we still have this stuff.

          Your username and instance kinda gave it away, comfortable cushion ;-)

          Just wanted to make it clear that I don’t have an american POV :)

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            18 days ago

            Forming groups is still important. We need it to find our place in the world. There is no single truth, therefore we argue and fight.

            Absolutely. Forming groups defined by commonality is good. Discussions are important to check our own biases and misconceptions. Diversity is key to avoiding stagnation. Conflict can create opportunity for growth.

            War, above all else, destroys. There are many great things we can do with each other that don’t involve violence.

            Not saying anything you said is wrong, btw. Just wanted to state why we still have this stuff.

            Good point, adding nuance is important.