• mindaika@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    15 days ago

    No, the group of people who don’t kill any people with their vehicles is not “just as dangerous” as the group who kills 25,000+ people/year

    • hardcoreufo@lemmy.world
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      15 days ago

      I like biking but don’t do much of it anymore because of crazy drivers.

      I’m sure plenty of pedestrians have been killed by cyclists. I’ve almost been run over multiple times by spandex warriors running red lights. I’m not convinced if you looked at percentages and not raw numbers you wouldn’t find just as many irresponsible cyclists as you do drivers. I see multiple drivers doing something stupid every day and I see a cyclist every week or two doing something stupid. Difference is I see 200 cars a day and 4 cyclists.

      The best thing for your safety on a bike is to let the aggressive driver go, not to police them. Antagonizing an irate driver is a recipe for disaster no matter if you are in a car, on a bike or a pedestrian.

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        15 days ago

        I’m sure plenty of pedestrians have been killed by cyclists.

        I did some quick searching and found 2019 data from Europe. In all of the EU that year, bicycles killed 19 pedestrians while cars killed 3200 pedestrians. Over 168 pedestrians killed by a car for each killed by a bicycle. I know there are plenty of irresponsible cyclists, and yet they are still a tiny fraction as dangerous as a driver.

    • cm0002@lemmy.world
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      15 days ago

      The “Not gonna let them pass me crowd” includes both drivers and bikers.