• ThomasLadder_69@lemmy.ml
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    11 hours ago

    I think there’s a MASSIVE difference between Formula/GT/Rally guys and guys who roll coal. True racing cars count for less than 1% of global emissions. The real problem is all the flights and transport necessary to get to the venues. The vehicles themselves are a blip on the radar.

    Guys who roll coal are deliberately harming the environment for the sake of making a really stupid point.

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      11 hours ago

      Guys who roll coal are deliberately harming the environment for the sake of making a really stupid point.

      I don’t disagree but it doesn’t let f1/nascar/etc off the hook. their ‘hobby’ is racing in circles burning gas.

      Let me type that again, because the absurdity is powerful:

      THEIR HOBBY IS RACING IN CIRCLES BURNING GAS.

      work it out mate.

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        6 hours ago

        How much CO2 did I waste responding to this comment?

        I think the larger point is that non-hobby, essential things like “going to work” or “feeding the family” should not be cooking the planet.

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        7 hours ago

        Their hobby is a feat of mechanichal engineering, and like I said, their prescence accounts for less than 1% of total emissions.The research and development that goes into these cars can also translate to consumer cars.

        I wouldn’t be surprised if the improved aerodymics, engine efficiency, and reliability from pushing engineering practices significantly offset the emissions created by the sport

        Here is an interesting read showcasing that f1 puts out one tenth of the emissions that the world cup does and also shows that the races themselves only cover 0.7% of the sport’s emissions. So that is 0.7% of <1% of global emissions, which is negligible.

        I understand that off principle, it may seem like a waste, but thinking pragmatically for a second one can see that the benefits outweigh the environmental costs.

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          Their hobby is a feat of mechanichal engineering, and like I said, their prescence accounts for less than 1% of total emissions.

          their presence accounts for less than 1% of total emission for what? it’s far below total combustion emissions so I have no idea what you’re on about; if you’re asserting that the race itself only uses 1% of the total expended to move the cars to the next race etc., I’ve got radical advice bud:

          you could end 100% of that emission by just STOPPING. Let them mario kart, let them gran turismo ffs.

          The research and development that goes into these cars can also translate to consumer cars.

          yeah this seems like the nasa argument but the actual returns are tiny, teeeny amounts of cross-pollination from the race world to the real world, because even though the real world might benefit from something like radical aerodynamics (vacuum motors for example) don’t work on city streets, or they’re so feverishly expensive that they can’t be applied to the average car.

          Cute canard tho.

          Here is an interesting read showcasing that f1 puts out one tenth of the emissions that the world cup does and also shows that the races themselves only cover 0.7% of the sport’s emissions. So that is 0.7% of <1% of global emissions, which is negligible.

          well that’s fine because I’d like people to stop travelling massive distances for sportsball too. no need to compare, cut 'em both.