• prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    2 months ago

    If you really want to avoid a Trump win, supporting a viable alternative outside the two-party system is the only way to push the conversation forward.

    Ok so this is bad faith or you clearly have no idea how this country works. Or maybe even both.

    So let me get this straight… In order to avoid another Trump term, we must vote for a party that, mathematically, has no chance of winning? Taking votes from the only candidate running against Trump that might win in the process?

    Let’s remember that Trump said he will not run again if he loses. That means winning in 2024 is the only way that “another win” can happen.

    So please, I would love for you to explain to me, how voting third party in 2024 will “avoid a Trump win”?

    Again, and perhaps you just don’t know how elections here work, but these candidates can not possibly win.

    That’s not hyperbole, they are literally incapable of securing the 270 electoral votes needed to win. Please tell me you understand this. Like you get the basic arithmetic being used here, right?

    So with that said… I would LOVE to hear how voting third party will avoid another Trump term.

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      part of me shitting on third parties is the fact they enable the bad stuff they want to happen, see the elections of 2000 and 2016. but it also needs to be pointed out, repeatedly, loudly, this other point you just nade:

      IT IS STATISTICALLY IMPOSSIBLE FOR A THIRD PARTY CANDIDATE TO WIN ENOUGH ELECTORAL VOTES TO BECOME PRESIDENT.

      they don’t have an answer for that. if they do respond they never address that specific point only saying well enough people just have to vote third party.

      none of these people have any clue how our government or elections or voting works. I’ll bet some of them are convinced that because the cheneys endorsed harris it means she’s an even bigger genocider even though they both have said they don’t agree with her politics except for the politics that preserve the constitution. they’re dead enders man.

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      2 months ago

      Every vote for Harris is stealing a vote from third-party candidates who represent real change. By sidelining those voices, you’re indirectly helping Trump win!

      If you really want to avoid a Trump win, supporting a viable alternative outside the two-party system is the only way to push the conversation forward.