• very_well_lost@lemmy.world
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      Even Ralph Nader, the most recognized and influential figure in Jill’s party said he wouldn’t vote for her. (The article is from before Biden dropped out, but none of his reasons for voting Biden are invalidated by a Harris ticket.)

      Even fellow Greens are smart enough to see that a vote for Stein is a vote for Trump — and what a danger that is to American democracy.

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      Just Ignore Jill she represents almost no one

      Well, it definitely seems as if the news and the democratic party isn’t ignoring her.

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        Yeah they are. It’s all pretty laughable. Everyone is aware that voting third party is throwing your vote away and this election is far too important for anyone serious to do that.

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          Everyone is aware that voting third party is throwing your vote away and this election is far too important for anyone serious to do that.

          So was the last election ok to for third party? How about the one before that? And is the next one, when Trump Jr runs, ok for us vote third party then?

          So just THIS 2024 election we shouldn’t. But the other ones are ok. Right?

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            It’ll be okay to vote third party (in a social sense since it’s already allowed legally) when we change the election systems that we use so that third party votes are not spoiler votes. Let’s abandon First Past the Post and use something like Ranked Choice Voting or better.

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            So just THIS 2024 election we shouldn’t. But the other ones are ok. Right?

            If this election goes wrong it might be the last real one we get so, yes. Right.

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              yes. Right.

              So we can definitely vote 3rd party the next election? I just want to make sure we are on the same page.

              I mean, I’m still voting 3rd party this election, but it’ll be good that you can calm down being so mad about it when I continue to post third party news after the upcoming election. You can finally relax!

              So was it ok to vote 3rd party in 2016? And 2020? Or is just THIS election that we shouldn’t?

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                we shouldn’t

                Anyone can vote for anyone they see fit in any election. If that means voting 3rd party in this election, then it means throwing away an actually meaningful vote.

                I’m not mad? What makes you say that? You do seem to like to twist my comments. It’s one of the many reasons I don’t trust you and question your motives.

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                  Anyone can vote for anyone they see fit in any election.

                  Oh ok, so you DO support and respect peoples right to vote for who they want to, even in THIS election. Right?

                  Just wanna clear the air.

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            2008 was pretty safe. 2012 too. Every election since then, it’s been too close and the stakes too high.

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              So not just THIS election then.

              Doesn’t matter tho. I’m still voting third party. And I’ve created a community that allows even more diversity in political opinion including more republican and third party posts, in addition to democrat posts. So you may wanna block me now and save yourself the frustration.

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                    You ask for criteria on when it’s too important to vote 3rd party. I give you criteria. You say, it doesn’t matter, I’m still voting 3rd party. What was the point of that whole interaction if nothing could possibly change your mind?

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            Why are you even worrying about elections other than the one in front of us? Droning about past elections and ones beyond the one in front of us isn’t going to win anybody over. What’s done is done and what is not in front of us is irrelevant.

            It’s just what it is.

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              Why are you even worrying about elections other than the one in front of us?

              Because every election since as long as I have been voting, people say variations of “Well voting third party is fine, but not THIS election. THIS election is too important!”

              Which is what the OP I was replying to said.

              I’ve been voting since 1988. And i have heard this every election. So guess what? I’ve decided that this election isn’t any more or less important than any election. And I’m proudly voting third party. :)

              It’s just what it is.