• Socialist Mormon Satanist@lemmy.worldOP
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    If these are your real views, then I am dreadfully sorry to have engaged with you.

    Yep, those are my real views, as are the views I discuss in my replies. And the comment was that I was arguing in bad faith, and I assured you I wasn’t.

    So what about my profile makes you so “dreadfully sorry” and worried?

    I’m sorry I still haven’t looked up your profile, but I don’t care enough to do that, because I don’t know you and you seem very rude to me in our discussions so far.

    Hopefully, it was just a bad day you were having, because I try to default to everyone having good intentions unless proven otherwise.

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      “Transracial-Mormon”, I already have massive problems with the LDS church and “transracialism”, but to claim to be “transracial” in one of the most racist church in the US? Cmon.

      Which race are you trying to transition into?

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        You left the “Satanist” part out tho. Did you overlook that?

        Do you really think I would be a “devout” traditional Mormon if I were also a Satanist?

        And also, are you implying that you judge people based on their religion? I hope not, as that doesn’t sound very democratic.

        And since you seem to have a question about my religion:

        I practice Independent Mormonism "where individuals or groups embrace and adapt some of the teachings and some of the practices of Mormonism such as strong community ties, frugality, living debt-free, promoting and continuing education, healthy habits like avoiding drugs and alcohol, daily exercise, and more, with much more progressive views on theology, science, and social issues, while not necessarily believing in the supernatural aspects of the religion."

        And I’m a Satanist. :)

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          Nice job completely ignoring the question. The question was, which race are you trying to transition into? If you’re transracial after all.

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            I’ve answered this question before with other people. But I don’t feel like you are asking in a respectful way.

            Do you talk to transgender people like this as well? Serious question.

            Because it’s up to me if I want to share the information with you or not.

            And again, not sure what this has to do with a political discussion. Does my sexual preference matter to you as well?! I’m not sure what point you are trying to make by getting personal with me.

            You disagree with my opinion. I disagree with yours. But I respect your right to your opinion, and I expect the same courtesy from you.

            Getting personal is not making your point. Please stay civil and try to avoid personal insults please. Thank you!

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              Do you talk to transgender people like this as well?

              They aren’t the same, Transracialism is a fringe belief that’s been widely rebuked as incredibly racist. Get better sealioning.

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                Which was exactly what people said about transgender people as well.

                And seems like people are starting to take this seriously.

                "Racial dysphoria, also known as ethnic dysphoria, refers to a psychological condition characterized by a profound sense of disconnection from one’s own culture and a strong identification with a different culture, typically one that is distinct from the individual’s background.

                Gender and Race in an Age of Unsettled Identities: How the transgender experience opens up new possibilities for thinking about gender and race By Princton University Press

                https://press.princeton.edu/books/hardcover/9780691172354/trans

                Rebecca Tuvel, Associate Professor and Chair of Philosophy at Rhodes College

                https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/hypatia/article/abs/in-defense-of-transracialism/D534B85A2455F8E4C925AE1B6E3DC760

                https://blog.apaonline.org/2021/07/06/changing-identities-are-race-and-gender-analogous/

                Hmmmm, I guess it’s not quite as “racist” as you believed.

                Curious about some of your words; I would like to know if you are implying that I am racist because I am transracial.

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                  Which was exactly what people said about transgender people as well.

                  Are you imagining things?

                  Hmmmm, I guess it’s not quite as “racist” as you believed.

                  Oh wow, one professor wrote a book and now it’s not racist, I didn’t know that’s how the world worked. Thank you so much. /s

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                    Are you imagining things?

                    Oh, so you don’t remember when people hated transgender people, didn’t take it seriously, and actively tried to pretend it wasn’t a real thing?! How old are you?

                    Oh wow, one professor wrote a book and now it’s not racist, I didn’t know that’s how the world worked.

                    Other people did as well.

                    Also, the “one professor” who wrote about it, bets her career on it, still surprised you, didn’t it…

                    All travel begins with one first step. You know, there also one person who decided to take transgenderism seriously first too. I think these same conversations have gone exactly like this before.

                    Which side of history do you wanna be on?

                    So tell me again how’s it racist? And are you calling me racist? I’m not sure what you mean, so I just wanna clarify.