Article details how reporter – pre-armed with relevant facts and cameras – confronts neoNazis in Tennessee. | Excerpts:
Members of the Goyim Defense League harassed people in the heart of Nashville’s entertainment district, berating a lesbian mom who had just left a restaurant.
Later, the neo-Nazis assaulted a bartender who had confronted the group.
“I’m curious: Why Nashville? Why did you guys choose Nashville?” I asked Minadeo.
A fellow GDL member, Nicholas Bysheim, quickly answered.
“It’s the only place that respects freedom of speech,” Bysheim said.
Minadeo added, “Yeah, this city respects freedom of speech, but communist Jews like yourself don’t.”
A Californian who moved to Florida, Minadeo leads the hate group as it goes around the country trying to create scenes that they hope will bring them attention and followers.
One of their favorite tropes: Falsely accusing Jews of being pedophiles.
Over and over, it became clear that these are people who are blind to any facts that don’t support their hate.
These are really pathetic human beings.
They are the only ones who seem not to know it.
This journalist just gave us a masterclass in everything you shouldn’t do when interacting with nazis: appeals to logic, appeals to emotion, bringing up facts and logic, and ultimately platforming them. This is the kind of liberalism that promotes fascism. There is no excuse to give fascists time on TV and to platform them. There is no “debating” fascists. There is only violence.
Please, this is the most important comment here. There is nothing to be gained from communicating with a Nazi. Even when they’re playing nice
Zero tolerance, nazi punks fuck off
Make Punching Nazis Legal Again
Punching seems too nice when blades exist.
Mapunla!
Imagine being so wrapped up in your hateful bullshit that you are terrifying young children on the street and you still think you are the good guy.
I feel sorry for the kid. This sort of crap makes me angry.
No, no, grown men making little girls cry is just normal and an essential part of free speech.
The grown men are free to choose to make little girls cry, and little girls are free to choose to cry. What don’t you understand tankie?!?!
Can I make the grown men cry?
Let me know when you do. I want to help.
You are few to choose
The GDL’s founder — a failed rapper and actor named Jon Minadeo who recently moved to Florida after he was fired from a catering business in California owned by his parents — was himself arrested in Palm Beach in February for littering offenses involving the fliers
From another article, lo fuckingl the dudes parents fired him!
Anyone remember r/BeholdTheMasterRace? It was pretty funny. Plus, it’s always good fun to dunk on racists.
That’s exactly what I thought of. Alas, permanently gone dark in protest of Reddit’s API changes. Fortunately, we have the power to create it anew! !beholdthemasterrace@lemmy.ml
Goyim Defense League
That would be funny if they were 16 and not fully grown men.
Damn, it takes guts and patience to confront and be honest with nazis.
And cameras. Don’t forget to record what they are doing. I feel like this sort of interaction could go really wrong if there isn’t a video record.
The Nazies sure stopped trying to have a conversation when the reporter asked if the known pedophile in their group wasn’t hiding behind one of the hoods/masks.
A great example of why debating Nazis is pointless. Throw a Molotov in the middle of them instead—it’s the only language they understand.
“When I hear ‘culture,’ I reach for my gun” is a favorite quote of Nazis.
Their take is always whoever shoots first wins.
You see how ignorant they are.
Whoever shoots last wins.
Jon Minadeo II is also an indophobe, it seems. But little does this clown know that the Aryans that these neo-Nazis claim to be, used to live in modern-day Iran, Pakistan, Afghanistan and north India? The word ‘Arya’ means noble and honorable one, and this clown is neither of that.
The “Aryans” these clowns claim to be never actually existed, they’re some lame occult-adjacent bullshit cooked up by Himmler et. al. to sell the big lie.
EDIT: Saw this was .ml so I’m gonna try to be nicer about it
The issue with neonazi’s is not that they misuse and abuse words, history, rhetoric. Though they certainly do.
The solution to neonazi’s then is not to correct them on their lexicon or try to catch them in a logical fallcy or a lapsus.
Flippantly, the cure is simple:
Less flippantly, the cure is organized, militant worker movements willing and prepared to resist the reactionary violence that is sure to come as the West steadily loses its hegemonic status in the world. The old world is dying, and the new world struggles to be born: now is the time of monsters. And you don’t debate a vampire that’s got his fangs in your neck. You go get a stake.
Not sure if the boy works here, but… @aihorde@lemmy.dbzer0.com draw for me REAL Americans FIGHT Nazis!
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This is great but the interviewer should’ve asked why the member who tried to meet up with a child was kicked out if it really was a police setup.
Fantastic article. Gets right to the heart of the problem. Angry people disappointed with how their lives turned out feel like they have to cling to something. Something that gives them the value that they don’t see in themselves as individuals.
Race is an easy crutch. There are centuries of bullshit pseudoscience about skull shapes and whatnot for them to discover. And most of all, it gives them enemies. They can take all that hate and frustration they feel in their own lives and direct it outwardly.
It’s ultimately sad and pathetic. Maybe if people like this had economic opportunities, better education, etc. they wouldn’t have the underlying self-loathing that leads them down this path.
Alternatively, simply punch the nazis
No, violence is the way you lose.
Nazis, famously convinced by non violence
What are the nazis going to do to you that you are worried about? Is it better for you to know who is a nazi, or for them to work behind the scenes?
I like how you frame this as if your argument isn’t tired as hell. We’ve all heard the “let sunlight be the disinfectant” garbage.
Fun fact, Nazis won’t do shit to me, they’d welcome me with open arms.
That is not what I said, I want to know what danger those people pose to you (or anyone else) that you NEED to use violence against them. What particular danger?
They’re literally harassing people in the street in this article. Why are you being obtuse
So then any group harassing people in the streets we should start punching them if we suspect they are part of that group?
I’d rather know. Having spent a large portion of my education in the US southeast, I’ve been embarrassed in public by people I considered friends until they said something unacceptable. Whether it’s “being rude to the help” at a restaurant, getting drunk and harassing someone over race, whatever, I’ve not hesitated throughout my life to tell prejudiced people to shut the fuck up and find a new ride home or a new set of friends.
It’s surprisingly easy to remove yourself from someone you know is denying you a ton of social opportunity. If someone is automatically threatening in your mind because of their race or gender alone, you’re weak, you’re immature, and you drag down everyone who takes time to validate your bullshit insecurities by talking about it, much less participating in it. Delete your twittter account
I would agree, I want to know so that its not some 4chan in real life thing. Start punching people that allegedly nazis and they will group together stronger and gain sympathy.
So you think that american nazis are going to take over and kill millions of jews?
That’s your takeaway from the above image?
Do you agree with gandhi that Jews should lay down their weapons, and offer themselves to nazi knives?
That is my takeaway of what you might believe. I do not agree with ghandi in this situation.
The fuck is wrong with these freaks?
People stopped punching nazis in the nose, it used to be a fun pastime
Insulting to small-chinned comrades. Just because they’re nazis doesn’t mean body shaming is okay.
I agree, the subtext of this comic could be read as if it was okay if they were all blond, blue eyed chads.
If the “masterrace” people were all ultra good looking, highly educated supermodels, they’d still be wrong, evil and ugly on the inside.
Just because they’re Nazi’s means almost anything is okay. Body shame them away. They’re not going to give you or me the basics of human respect so why should I? Almost every Nazi I’ve met is a fat, ugly, neck beard who would rather force everyone to change around them than to change themselves. See how easy that was?
You can body shame fascists until the cows come home. Still won’t do jack shit. The only winning strategy is violence.
Would you call a fascist the R word? How about the N word? If you found a fascist in a wheelchair, would you start talking up low blows? Leftist ought to see no utility in body shaming, we are above that. It doesn’t work anyway.
If they’re a fascist and what I’m saying is getting under their skin, yeah I’ll call them all that. With apologies to the groups that I disparage.
What comic is this?
Preacher by Garth Ennis, who also wrote The Boys.
Preacher by Garth Ennis and Steve Dillon. Specifically #46, reprinted in the collection “Preacher: Salvation”.
Really, all of Preacher though is just solid gold. Shame the TV show didn’t do it justice.
