• t3rmit3@beehaw.org
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    Hell yeah! Cop training is a non-stop indoctrination of fearing death around every corner, and preempting that presumed danger with deadly force, when 99% of the time there is no danger.

    This has had the side effect of making cops almost completely unwilling to actually engage larger groups of armed individuals, which groups like Elm Fork John Brown Gun Club (and other JBGCs) and Don’t Comply use to their advantage.

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      This has had the side effect of making cops almost completely unwilling to actually engage larger groups of armed individuals

      As well as being unwilling to engage a lone gunman murdering children in school.

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      Then please explain what my state (Louisiana) is doing here. What your saying is absolute common sense to me, but somehow the pro-police right thinks that legalizing a gun carried anywhere on a body, even tucked, of any providence, will somehow make law enforcement able to perform their job.

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        Because thanks to decades of anti-firearm legislation and rhetoric from the Democrats, and the very real social taboo around them in (neo)liberal spaces as a consequence, the Right knows that most gun owners are Right-wingers. They don’t want to disarm everyone, just non-white people and non-conservatives.

        It being legal for minorities to carry guns won’t stop cops from shooting them (if anything, it just gives police another “excuse” to shoot them), so really the “constitutional carry” laws in Red states only apply to white people.

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    This feels like one of those gun lobbyist posts pretending to be something else…

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      Look up Ronald Reagan’s Mulford Act. Why do you think a Republican governor would act to ban guns? Why would the NRA support the bill?

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        Here in Australia, we simply disarmed everyone including cops which is why even shootings by cops are rare

        But the fact you linked to that shows the real intention of your post was actually to promote more guns. I don’t think you actually care about the homeless… but no idea how more people carrying more guns benefits than either, especially since the cops would more likely adopt a shoot first policy

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          The United States is the worlds #1 exporter of guns. North Korea is their only rival when it comes to military enlistment per capita. Only China and India have larger standing armies. They are the backbone of NATO, and widely regarded as the best when it comes to making war. Arms manufacturers eroded healthy gun culture long ago to create a large domestic market for their product during the short lulls in the forever war against America’s enemies. Expecting Americans to have a sane domestic firearm policy is like expecting Brazilians to pass laws to encourage moderation in coffee consumption.

          I would love to see the police disarmed and de-militarized. I’d love to be able to go to a protest without having to accept getting shot by police or a vigilante is just one of the risks - hell I’d like to go to the barbershop without having to accept getting shot by police or a vigilante is just one of the risks. But Democrats have increased funding year after year to the military industrial complex and voted for every war on the docket while wondering out loud why every other nation has significantly less mass shootings. Please don’t join the useless chorus.

          The Republicans have openly called to exterminate leftists, kill women who won’t submit, and celebrate America’s genocides. They’ve made celebrities of people who gun down protestors. They’re dehumanizing transgender people, refugees, and people of color. This next election could be the trigger for a new era of internal genocide. Every call for dis-armament in the United States has been targeted primarily at urban people, the poor, and people of color. Do you think that’s progressive?

          Australia’s foreign policy and domestic defense relies heavily on the expectation of American intervention in military matters. If you had your own bonkers gun industry and military complex with a stranglehold on politics and the economy, maybe I’d consider the Australian gun control model realistic. It’s hypocritical to knock people who keep guns when you’ve got an arsenal-owning bogan uncle down the way who will rock up the minute you turn on a blue.

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            That thing is just one more giant gun ad. And it is sad to see people posting pro gun nonsense on beehaw.

            Nobody in America feels safe and you have regular mass shootings.

            They’re not being used for defence, they’re being used for exactly the opposite.

            And I hate that people are trying to post articles that clearly are written to make them seem like a good thing

            These are weapons which are terrible at defence, but absolutely wonderful at killing many people

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    Not only carrying an AR-15 … but also wearing a red shirt, which is exactly as relevant to this story. Fucking clickbait.