They arrived in the middle of the day, when the squat concrete buildings of the Nuseirat refugee camp are stifling and the narrow streets outside are filled with people.
It’s this simple.
If a single innocent child is between you and your military target, and you kill the child to get to the target, then you’re a villain. Are you as much of a villain as the person you killed? Perhaps not. But are you a villain? Yes.
You are correct, everyone is a villain at that point. The problem with that, as horrible this is, is it incentivizes the action. For the same reason countries don’t negotiate with terrorists. If you prove that committing terrorist acts, or taking hostages, or using children as human shields works, you positively reinforce those acts. Its fucked up beyond belief, and all alternatives need to be exhausted, but at some level someone takes the responsibility for where the lines are drawn for the least damage in the long run.
Is it actually preferable to just give money to anyone who hijacks a bus load of people, or a plane, or a bank, etc, so that no hostages are possibly injured when that happens? It might be, and could be argued for. Is such acts becoming more frequent or commonplace because it works an acceptable price weight against innocent human life? Again, it very well might be. It’s only money. I am glad I am not the one making those decisions, but we can’t pretend that the calculus doesn’t happen and/or doesn’t matter.
Let me quickly condemn Hamas before I step in to tell you that I’m so sick of reading „Hamas uses human shields“. The IDF is quite literally doing the same. Do you condemn the IDF?
That being said, it seems like an absolute waste of energy to use human shields against Israel, because they do not give a shit about civilians. They even shot their own hostages who were naked, unarmed, writing SOS and speaking Hebrew.
According to UN officials this could amount once again to war crimes. Do you think it’s Hamas‘ fault that Israel is committing war crimes? That Israel is committing genocide to name the crime of crimes?
i condemn the idf for killing innocents and their own hostage. there isn’t any argument concerning the killing of innocents.
i do however hold hamas ultimately accountable for these atrocities if they hadn’t started that shit on Oct 7th.
idf is responsible and accountable for sure but the situation today is still ultimately a response to hama’s actions and they are ultimately responsible and accountable for the tragedies that’s happening.
Yes, Hamas is shitty and I’ve never seen a single person defend them.
Their actions do not ever justify the killing of innocent people and civilians. What’s so nasty about this war is the massive numbers of innocent deaths.
In this operation they saved FOUR people at the literal cost of hundreds of innocent men, women, and children. How can anyone defend this? It’s simply unconscionable.
hamas should have just surrendered and none of these innocents have to die.
this is on hamas.
It’s this simple. If a single innocent child is between you and your military target, and you kill the child to get to the target, then you’re a villain. Are you as much of a villain as the person you killed? Perhaps not. But are you a villain? Yes.
You are correct, everyone is a villain at that point. The problem with that, as horrible this is, is it incentivizes the action. For the same reason countries don’t negotiate with terrorists. If you prove that committing terrorist acts, or taking hostages, or using children as human shields works, you positively reinforce those acts. Its fucked up beyond belief, and all alternatives need to be exhausted, but at some level someone takes the responsibility for where the lines are drawn for the least damage in the long run.
Is it actually preferable to just give money to anyone who hijacks a bus load of people, or a plane, or a bank, etc, so that no hostages are possibly injured when that happens? It might be, and could be argued for. Is such acts becoming more frequent or commonplace because it works an acceptable price weight against innocent human life? Again, it very well might be. It’s only money. I am glad I am not the one making those decisions, but we can’t pretend that the calculus doesn’t happen and/or doesn’t matter.
nah,it’s simpler, hamas shouldn’t be using children as shield like a coward and take what’s coming for them like the man they claimed they were.
villian i may be,coward i am not.
Yea, bad guys shouldn’t use civilians as human shields.
That doesn’t give someone else the right to shoot the civilians to kill the bad guys.
that’s true and hamas doesn’t give a shit is a child dies. they much prefer to kill the israelis and if the child dies along the way, it’s justified.
Without a doubt. Israel shouldn’t be killing innocent civilians just because the terrorists are hiding in an apartment building, you know?
and terrorists like hamas shouldn’t be hiding in civilian buildings if they are such holy warriors.
fuck these cowards using civilian as shields.
Yes, you’re right. No one is saying they should. Lol.
The point, is that Israel is the ‘good guys’ and they shouldn’t bomb innocent people just because they are being used by the bad guys.
Let me quickly condemn Hamas before I step in to tell you that I’m so sick of reading „Hamas uses human shields“. The IDF is quite literally doing the same. Do you condemn the IDF?
That being said, it seems like an absolute waste of energy to use human shields against Israel, because they do not give a shit about civilians. They even shot their own hostages who were naked, unarmed, writing SOS and speaking Hebrew.
According to UN officials this could amount once again to war crimes. Do you think it’s Hamas‘ fault that Israel is committing war crimes? That Israel is committing genocide to name the crime of crimes?
i condemn the idf for killing innocents and their own hostage. there isn’t any argument concerning the killing of innocents.
i do however hold hamas ultimately accountable for these atrocities if they hadn’t started that shit on Oct 7th.
idf is responsible and accountable for sure but the situation today is still ultimately a response to hama’s actions and they are ultimately responsible and accountable for the tragedies that’s happening.
They want innocent people to die, it’s how they get people on their side. They need it for propaganda.
Yes, Hamas is shitty and I’ve never seen a single person defend them.
Their actions do not ever justify the killing of innocent people and civilians. What’s so nasty about this war is the massive numbers of innocent deaths.
In this operation they saved FOUR people at the literal cost of hundreds of innocent men, women, and children. How can anyone defend this? It’s simply unconscionable.
Talk about stating the obvious, , ,
This is on the IDF. No one is forcing them to attack so indiscriminately.
hamas basically is.
They have been ready to give all the hostige back if Israel givs theres back and stops commuting genocide. But the declined over 10 times
lol,hamas condition for ceasefire basically is such that no sane person will ever agree to it.
besides,there isn’t even a need for all these had hamas not decide to commit mass murders on Oct 7th.