• MrJameGumb@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    So… You believe that pre-arranged enforced rape victims would be a good thing? Is that seriously the argument you’re making? Is this a late April Fools joke? Are you trolling me?

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      8 months ago

      No, you’re just indoctrinated by bullshit and it’s making you say insane and stupid things.

      If you think that monogamy means you get to rape your partner, then you probably shouldn’t be in any relationship under any system ever because clearly consent is something you have a fuzzy concept of. You can stay in incel town where you belong.

      Monogamy is a system of relationships where you and another person agree that while you’re in a sexual relationship you won’t have sexual relationships with other people. Under such a system, if you have sexual relationships with other people while already in one relationship it’s called cheating and it’s frowned upon. You can have sexual relationships with other people, but first you need to end the relationship you’re in.

      The enforcement of monogamy isn’t forcing people into being in a relationship. It’s the enforcement of monogamy as the general way of having relationships rather than something like polygamy or a sexual free for all. Under monogamy, there’s lots of men and women who aren’t in relationships for a variety of reasons, and there’s nothing at all inherent in monogamy that suggests you must be in a relationship, any more than there being anything inherent in polygamy that suggests you must be in a relationship.

      Marriage in the west is a form of enforced monogamy. There is no law saying you can’t cheat on your husband or have a side boyfriend or girlfriend, and in fact a surprising number of marriages practice polyamory or other forms of sexual relationships but society expects that if you choose to marry someone then you’re going to be faithful to the other person. Under the European nuclear family model, there is no one ‘arranged’ to do anything – certainly not by the state. Young men go out and try to meet women, and a woman chooses who she wants to marry, and then they get married. The way that it is enforced is that you’ll face social disapproval if you cheat on your husband or wife. If your friends know that you are married, and they see your husband or wife kissing someone who isn’t you, they’ll come back to you and let you know, and if it gets out that you cheated on your spouse then you could lose social standing including losing friends because they don’t respect what you did.

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          8 months ago

          “I came to a new server and people there had opinions I didn’t understand. lol cool story bro they just be trollin”

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            8 months ago

            Oh I understood it, it’s just difficult to believe that in this day and age anyone still thinks that forcing women into arranged marriages against their will is in any way a good idea or that anyone would seriously go on at such length trying to defend it lol I figured it must be some kind of copy pasta trolling

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              7 months ago

              No, you didn’t understand it at all. You’re either a troll, or you’re apocalyptically stupid. Since you’re a redditor, I’m guessing the latter.

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                7 months ago

                Now that’s just lazy half-assed trolling right there! You didn’t even phrase it in a way that leaves anything open to response! How can I give an emotional knee jerk reaction if you stop at basic negging? If you’re going to be a shitty gaslighting troll then at least take some pride in your work for god’s sake!

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                  7 months ago

                  Why would I leave it open to response? You’ve responded to 3 messages saying “enforce monogamy does not mean arranged marriages or anything of the sort” with “so what you’re saying is you agree with arranged marriages”, which only leaves 2 options – troll or idiot. And again, being a redditor who thinks every opinion that isn’t his is a troll, you’re probably being sincere and also really stupid because that’s what redditors do.

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                    7 months ago

                    Not sure where you’re getting Reddit from, I have no reddit accounts.

                    I was halfway through typing another response appealing to common sense when I realized you’d nearly tricked me with your troll sorcery lol

                    Well done, you really brought your A game this time 👍

                    Here’s a reward for you!

                    Congratulations 🎉