Buying a gun is a donation to the very worst members of the Republican party and permissive gun laws do far more to enable extremists than dissuade them.
I mean, so is paying taxes? I think equating purchasing any firearm from anyone to financing the republican party isn’t really a sensible claim. It’s not like the profit from every gun sale is going directly to the NRA.
If this bullshit worked, America would already be the safest country on earth by a huge margin.
If gun control laws were feasible in America I wouldn’t have to arm myself to protect my family from a bunch of racist dudes in a militia…
If America was inhabited by reasonable people who would tolerate reasonable gun control laws, I would fully support them. We do not live in that country, nor do I ever foresee us living in that country.
Instead liberals have spent a decade of political effort to die on a hill without making an iota of progress. Guns laws are among the largest drivers of single issue voters to the GOP. Fighting this unwinnable battle has done nothing but drive gun sales and secure easy votes for conservatives.
Plus, even if we did somehow pass legislation through Congress, you really think the vultures on the current supreme Court would really let it stand?
The only way America has ever passed gun control laws is when the “wrong people” armed themselves and started to make “up right citizens” nervous. If you really want gun control, arm yourself and make the “upright citizens” question the wisdom of their own beliefs.
I think equating purchasing any firearm from anyone to financing the republican party isn’t really a sensible claim. It’s not like the profit from every gun sale is going directly to the NRA.
You don’t have to guess. Around $16 million dollars per year of that profit is going to far-right Republicans. It used to only be $8 million a year but for some mysterious reason it doubled in 2012.
Honestly, what more could the far-right possibly ask of their useful pro-gun idiots on the left? They’re allowing fascists and fuckwits to buy all the guns they want and enriching deeply evil groups and giving the state all the excuse they need to execute minorities in the street. Another 6 months of propaganda and you’ll be telling people on social media that it’s heroic to let neonazis finish in your mouth.
Fighting this unwinnable battle has done nothing but drive gun sales and secure easy votes for conservatives.
Not very consistent in your ideals are you? We’ve been waiting 40 years for guns to deliver on all the bullshit promises that gun advocates make. They’re going to stop crime, but the crime rate is functionally identical to the rest of the wealthy world, only with a layer of murder on top. They’re going to stop tyranny, but America is on the brink of fascism. They’re going to save all the minorities, but the most vulnerable groups are openly attacked by politicians and media organizations, with none of the progress made being owed to guns.
You’re here literally trying to drive up gun sales for a battle that isn’t just unwinnable, it’s demonstrably unnecessary.
Plus, even if we did somehow pass legislation through Congress, you really think the vultures on the current supreme Court would really let it stand?
Damn that sucks bro have you tried shooting them with your cool guns?
The only way America has ever passed gun control laws is when the “wrong people” armed themselves and started to make “up right citizens” nervous. If you really want gun control, arm yourself and make the “upright citizens” question the wisdom of their own beliefs.
Oh you mean the Black Panther Party? The people who did the exact thing you’re talking about? The ones who were demonized by the media and executed by the state? The ones whose goals still haven’t been achieved?
I know you’re trying for the slimy pro-gun “gun control is racist” talking point but all you’re really doing is giving an example of a group that committed to exactly what you’re advocating and it didn’t fucking work.
Lol, 8-16 million dollars is a tiny fraction of gun sales in America, you just proved my point.
Honestly, what more could the far-right possibly ask of their useful pro-gun idiots on the left? They’re allowing fascists and fuckwits to buy all the guns they want
My dude, they already have the guns. They already have their people in Congress and in the judicial system, gun laws are not happening. If you could actually pass them, I’d gladly give up my rifle.
very consistent in your ideals are you? We’ve been waiting 40 years for guns to deliver on all the bullshit promises that gun advocates make.
Lol, I’m not trying to solve crime, I’m just protecting my home. Mainly because the state is unwilling to do so.
You’re here literally trying to drive up gun sales for a battle that isn’t just unwinnable, it’s demonstrably unnecessary.
Personal protection is an unwinnable battle?
h you mean the Black Panther Party? The people who did the exact thing you’re talking about? The ones who were demonized by the media and executed by the state? The ones whose goals still haven’t been achieved?
No I mean every weapons prohibition going back to before we were a country has been based on prohibiting people of color from protecting themselves. Free black families weren’t even allowed to own guard dogs, as it made it harder for lynching mobs to have their fun.
slimy pro-gun “gun control is racist”
Can you name a weapons prohibition in America that was not spurred on by race relations in America?
You are just a privileged liberal who has no grasp on anything outside your lily white bubble of comfort your life has afforded you.
I still haven’t heard how exactly you would confront someone who’s trying to do you violence. I know you have no experience being hated for the color of your skin, but I’m sure you have an imagination of sorts. So, how do you talk your way out of a hate crime?
Lol, 8-16 million dollars is a tiny fraction of gun sales in America, you just proved my point.
What point? You barely made one. You claimed it was unfair to claim that gun sales fund Republicans but offered no other source for that money.
As far as I can tell, you’re just limply offering vague “it’s not even that much money” comments, pretending like you’d casually turn down a $15 million per year budget at work.
My dude, they already have the guns. They already have their people in Congress and in the judicial system, gun laws are not happening. If you could actually pass them, I’d gladly give up my rifle.
Yep, and now they’re suckering undesirables into giving them an excuse to use them.
Lol, I’m not trying to solve crime, I’m just protecting my home. Mainly because the state is unwilling to do so
Love that you didn’t say you’re defending people in your home, because you’ve put them at demonstrably more risk.
But that was never really the point anyway was it? You didn’t buy cameras, or motion lights, or alarms, or stronger locks. You bought a rifle. It’s not only less effective as a form of security, it’s not even a good gun for the job.
Personal protection is an unwinnable battle?
It’s a battle that literally only exists in your imagination and you’re sacrificing actual peoples lives for your cringe little hero fantasy where you murder someone for trying to steal your iPad.
No I mean every weapons prohibition going back to before we were a country has been based on prohibiting people of color from protecting themselves.
LOL you absolutely didn’t mean that. You specifically said “gun control” and now you’re trying to wriggle your way out of it with more bullshit.
Black people didn’t shoot their way out of oppression and widespread gun ownership has done absolutely nothing to promote equality, it’s just gotten more people murdered.
You are just a privileged liberal who has no grasp on anything outside your lily white bubble of comfort your life has afforded you.
I’m sure that would have really hurt my feelings if I somehow didn’t know anything about myself or the life I’ve lived. Could you have made it any clearer that you’re trying to self-soothe? You don’t even have a profile picture to go on.
I still haven’t heard how exactly you would confront someone who’s trying to do you violence
And you still haven’t told us how you’re going to shoot the people in your imagination (although I guess the higher suicide risk you’ve opted everyone in your house into might cover it).
I know you have no experience being hated for the color of your skin,
It would almost be worth doxxing myself just to show you how fucking stupid you look claiming to “know” things. Are we really supposed to politely pretend your opinions aren’t worthless as we watch you literally imagine things and then claim to know them as facts?
So, how do you talk your way out of a hate crime?
No, I’m not joining you in your fantasy world, especially when there are actual hate crimes to use. So how should George Floyd have shot his way out of systemic violence? What about Trayvon Martin? Fuck, how about Amir Locke?
Don’t be coy, tell us exactly when they should have drawn their gun and started firing and how they would have lived happily ever after if they’d just let the gun lobby finish in their mouth.
I mean, so is paying taxes? I think equating purchasing any firearm from anyone to financing the republican party isn’t really a sensible claim. It’s not like the profit from every gun sale is going directly to the NRA.
If gun control laws were feasible in America I wouldn’t have to arm myself to protect my family from a bunch of racist dudes in a militia…
If America was inhabited by reasonable people who would tolerate reasonable gun control laws, I would fully support them. We do not live in that country, nor do I ever foresee us living in that country.
Instead liberals have spent a decade of political effort to die on a hill without making an iota of progress. Guns laws are among the largest drivers of single issue voters to the GOP. Fighting this unwinnable battle has done nothing but drive gun sales and secure easy votes for conservatives.
Plus, even if we did somehow pass legislation through Congress, you really think the vultures on the current supreme Court would really let it stand?
The only way America has ever passed gun control laws is when the “wrong people” armed themselves and started to make “up right citizens” nervous. If you really want gun control, arm yourself and make the “upright citizens” question the wisdom of their own beliefs.
You don’t have to guess. Around $16 million dollars per year of that profit is going to far-right Republicans. It used to only be $8 million a year but for some mysterious reason it doubled in 2012.
Honestly, what more could the far-right possibly ask of their useful pro-gun idiots on the left? They’re allowing fascists and fuckwits to buy all the guns they want and enriching deeply evil groups and giving the state all the excuse they need to execute minorities in the street. Another 6 months of propaganda and you’ll be telling people on social media that it’s heroic to let neonazis finish in your mouth.
Not very consistent in your ideals are you? We’ve been waiting 40 years for guns to deliver on all the bullshit promises that gun advocates make. They’re going to stop crime, but the crime rate is functionally identical to the rest of the wealthy world, only with a layer of murder on top. They’re going to stop tyranny, but America is on the brink of fascism. They’re going to save all the minorities, but the most vulnerable groups are openly attacked by politicians and media organizations, with none of the progress made being owed to guns.
You’re here literally trying to drive up gun sales for a battle that isn’t just unwinnable, it’s demonstrably unnecessary.
Damn that sucks bro have you tried shooting them with your cool guns?
Oh you mean the Black Panther Party? The people who did the exact thing you’re talking about? The ones who were demonized by the media and executed by the state? The ones whose goals still haven’t been achieved?
I know you’re trying for the slimy pro-gun “gun control is racist” talking point but all you’re really doing is giving an example of a group that committed to exactly what you’re advocating and it didn’t fucking work.
Lol, 8-16 million dollars is a tiny fraction of gun sales in America, you just proved my point.
My dude, they already have the guns. They already have their people in Congress and in the judicial system, gun laws are not happening. If you could actually pass them, I’d gladly give up my rifle.
Lol, I’m not trying to solve crime, I’m just protecting my home. Mainly because the state is unwilling to do so.
Personal protection is an unwinnable battle?
No I mean every weapons prohibition going back to before we were a country has been based on prohibiting people of color from protecting themselves. Free black families weren’t even allowed to own guard dogs, as it made it harder for lynching mobs to have their fun.
Can you name a weapons prohibition in America that was not spurred on by race relations in America?
You are just a privileged liberal who has no grasp on anything outside your lily white bubble of comfort your life has afforded you.
I still haven’t heard how exactly you would confront someone who’s trying to do you violence. I know you have no experience being hated for the color of your skin, but I’m sure you have an imagination of sorts. So, how do you talk your way out of a hate crime?
What point? You barely made one. You claimed it was unfair to claim that gun sales fund Republicans but offered no other source for that money.
As far as I can tell, you’re just limply offering vague “it’s not even that much money” comments, pretending like you’d casually turn down a $15 million per year budget at work.
Yep, and now they’re suckering undesirables into giving them an excuse to use them.
Love that you didn’t say you’re defending people in your home, because you’ve put them at demonstrably more risk.
But that was never really the point anyway was it? You didn’t buy cameras, or motion lights, or alarms, or stronger locks. You bought a rifle. It’s not only less effective as a form of security, it’s not even a good gun for the job.
It’s a battle that literally only exists in your imagination and you’re sacrificing actual peoples lives for your cringe little hero fantasy where you murder someone for trying to steal your iPad.
LOL you absolutely didn’t mean that. You specifically said “gun control” and now you’re trying to wriggle your way out of it with more bullshit.
Black people didn’t shoot their way out of oppression and widespread gun ownership has done absolutely nothing to promote equality, it’s just gotten more people murdered.
I’m sure that would have really hurt my feelings if I somehow didn’t know anything about myself or the life I’ve lived. Could you have made it any clearer that you’re trying to self-soothe? You don’t even have a profile picture to go on.
And you still haven’t told us how you’re going to shoot the people in your imagination (although I guess the higher suicide risk you’ve opted everyone in your house into might cover it).
It would almost be worth doxxing myself just to show you how fucking stupid you look claiming to “know” things. Are we really supposed to politely pretend your opinions aren’t worthless as we watch you literally imagine things and then claim to know them as facts?
No, I’m not joining you in your fantasy world, especially when there are actual hate crimes to use. So how should George Floyd have shot his way out of systemic violence? What about Trayvon Martin? Fuck, how about Amir Locke?
Don’t be coy, tell us exactly when they should have drawn their gun and started firing and how they would have lived happily ever after if they’d just let the gun lobby finish in their mouth.