Episode 1 is out. Thought I’d get a discussion thread going. Maybe @Hurts can pin it until next week?
| EPISODE | RELEASE DATE | RUNTIME | CREDITS SCENE? |
|---|---|---|---|
| S01E01: Resurrection | June 21st, 2023 on Disney+ | 55 min | None |
I’m quite sad they killed off Hill. I thought we’d get to see more of her in this series. For someone who Fury has trusted for so long, I feel like she hasn’t gotten the screen time she deserved.
Not a bad pilot I think. Intriguing, with some interesting characters. And I’m definitely not sure who’s Skrull.
Rip Hill. She deserved better.
I thought she was going to be the Skrull.
I am a little behind on the films. What do I need to catch up on to understand the first few episodes?
I would suggest Captain Marvel
I’ve seen that already and all of the rest of the shows. I am just missing the newest ant-man and the newest Guardian of the Galaxy. Would I miss much?
Possibly BP2 for Everett Ross’s character arc.
I haven’t seen BP2 yet but didn’t feel out of the loop during the Ross scene. But then again there may have been something deeper that I wasn’t picking up on.
Not really just that Ross is ‘off the grid’ and not with SHIELD officially. He was arrested for having direct communication with Wakanda and charged with compromising national security by Valentine deFontaine.
Episode 1 is not connected to those two films at all. You can watch it.
Looks like I know what I’m doing tonight
Ok for a premier. Interested to see where the story goes. Curious where G’iah ends up, had me fooled this episode thinking she was helping Talos.
So was Ross really a Skrull the whole time?
I’m thinking no.
I think the Skrulls being immune to radiation is going to be very important.
They’re trying to start a war between the US and Russia, which could go nuclear. And the Skrulls will be fine if the earth gets irradiated.
The immunity to radiation could be a way to detect them. They’d have to give someone radiation poisoning to make sure they’re not a Skrull, but it is a way to confirm a person’s identity. But it also means the Skrulls might not be able to impersonate someone who has cancer, and maybe other illnesses.
If I had a nickel for every time Marvel has written a group of refugees into the big bad terrorists, I’d have two nickels. That’s not a lot, but it’s funny that it happened twice.
Ok yeh the Flag Smashers were more of an anti-nationalist group of displaced people, but they were still a diaspora.
And what about the Clandestines? Another diaspora, albeit exiles, set up as the villains trying to get back home. I’m not saying either group was in the right, or that their actions should be condoned, it’s just weird that Marvel have chosen refugees to be the villains in 3 of their TV series so far.
Or am I way off and finding a pattern that doesn’t exist?
I liked the Skrull being the good guys in the MCU, unlike the comics, and that they were using their shapeshifting abilities to survive instead of for war. I guess it was too tempting to villainise them for this series, and I get the intrigue/drama that comes with a race of shapeshifters, but it’s got me feeling iffy.
Stories like these are often about protecting the status quo, or at least protecting it from change involving harm and destruction. Refugees generally want to see the status quo changed because things suck for them. The more radical among the refugees will not be above using a bit of harm and destruction to get what they want. The ends justify the means and all that. I find it better to use the term “antagonist”. They are people that the protagonists have conflict with, but they aren’t necessarily bad people.
Oh waaw. If you didn’t watch Captain Marvel, you’re not going to understand who the villain is. If you did watch it, it still kinda throws you in and expects you to remember everything from that 1 movie. They planted a bomb because-- they are evil? Fury was in outer space all this time because-- he “had a crisis of faith”. They don’t ask the Avengers for help because-- it is “his fight”. Looks like I’m one of the few that didn’t enjoy this.
Not calling their friends has always been an issue with MCU plots. It’s just something you have to get past.
They planted a bomb because-- they are evil?
They’re trying to start a nuclear war. They were pretty explicit about it. They’re immune to nuclear radiation. Even their plants are immune.
To quote Pitch Meeting:
This is the world’s most expensive TV show, we can’t help it if the audience hasn’t watched the last episode.
Seriously tho, Fury was in space because Thanos scared the shit out of him and with Tony gone they need some sort of planetary defense.
As for the Avengers… what Avengers? Tony, Natasha, and Cap are gone. Bruce and Clint are disabled. Thor is off-world. No one knows how to contact Spider-man. Ant-man and the Wasp perhaps? (I’m still choked they aren’t trapped in the Quantum Realm like that script originally called for.) I will give you Dr. Strange tho… he should absolutely be helping out.
Feels like a rehash of FAWS.
Feels like a bullshit plot to me. The Skrulls have been living on Earth all this time, therefore Earth is their home now whether they like it or not. They also fail to realize that if they destroy Earth then they actually have nowhere to live.
The acting in the MCU is getting worse. SLJ’s acting sucks here. Cobie Smulder’s acting sucks here, especially that horrific ##### scene. Emilia Clarke is like the only well acted one here.
