• iAmTheTot@kbin.social
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    9 months ago

    Lol Iā€™m anything but a billionaire sympathizer. Billionaires shouldnā€™t exist.

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      9 months ago

      Dude, your answer to excesses of capitalism is ā€œlet the market solve itā€. The only person youā€™re fooling is yourself and that only because it is the lowest bar possible

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          That the market actually responds to consumer desires.

          Unfortunately with the excessively oversized conglomerates that do vertical integration in an ever increasing number of industries, there is only the illusion of choice left for consumers. Not using any type of media (books, movies, etc.) is not actually a solution or a choice. So consumers are left with no choice but what is offered, and the offering is not dictated by their desires but by the companies who will screw you over to increase already obscene profits. The ā€œvote with your walletā€ argument you use leaves you with ā€œpile of crap Aā€ and ā€œpile of crap Bā€ to choose from, with no alternatives. Your solution is social disconnect from everything and everyone, that is not actually a solution or a real viable choice.

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            My guy, Iā€™m talking about not paying for Netflix. Social disconnect? Youā€™re so dramatic. I havenā€™t had Netflix in years.

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              Youā€™re cutting oneā€¦but now theyā€™re all doing the shit that made you quit Netflix, and you have no (legal) way of getting access to pop culture without endorsing the shitty behaviour that doesnā€™t listen to consumer desires. That is why ā€œvoting with your walletā€ doesnā€™t work, because there is no alternative to vote for with your wallet. So unless you keep endorsing the shitty corporate behaviour, youā€™re pulling the plug on basically everything, and that is definitely a disconnection from many social interactions since youā€™ll have no clue what theyā€™re talking about.

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                You donā€™t have to watch the latest, hippest new show of streaming services so participate in society. I canā€™t believe Iā€™m even having this conversation, truthfully Iā€™m baffled that I need to repudiate this.

                But despite my sanity, I will engage with itā€¦ You know people still have dvd players, right? And libraries still exist? To be clear, Iā€™m just trying to rebuke the absurd claim that you have ā€œno way of getting access to poop cultureā€ without streaming services.

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                  How do you think people and libraries obtain their material? They dont get it for free, they buy it. So that still puts money in the hands of companies youā€™re trying not to give money. Every time you borrow something from the library, they pay a little to the copyright owner of that material. So youā€™re still supporting anti-consumer companies with your wallet by doing it like that. Like I said, voting with your wallet only works when there are alternatives, and we pretty much have none left.

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          Weā€™re a day deep in you not understanding that proposing a market mechanism (consumer choice) as a solution to a problem created by markets is risible. I could try and explain it you again but I canā€™t understand it for you, so letā€™s call it a day. iā€™m happy for you to be the only person in the room not getting it.

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              Ok, tell you what. iā€™ll engage with you as a good faith participant if you can meet the minimum bar. everyone else here knows whatā€™s wrong with your suggestion. if you can persuasively explain that you also understand it (without reusing my words) iā€™ll happily believe youā€™re not an idiot and a waste of time and we can dig into what else might be an appropriate response

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                That doesnā€™t seem like good faith at all.

                As a reminder, this exchange between you and I begun because you called me a billionaire bootlicker. When I replied that I didnā€™t think billionaires should exist, you said I was fooling myself. Instead taking me at face value when I told you my belief, you insinuated I donā€™t know how I feel about my own beliefs.

                Youā€™ve been nothing but antagonistic when Iā€™m pretty sure youā€™d find we would agree on probably a lot of things. We apparently disagree on the matter of if someone doesnā€™t like the rising prices of Netflix, they should stop paying for it, though.

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                  That is a lot of words to say ā€œno i canā€™t explain whatā€™s wrong with my argumentā€ but at least youā€™ve saved me a bunch of time champ

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      They shouldnā€™t exist? But youā€™re ok with the systems that actively reward and sustain the behaviour that creates them?