You cant regulate into ‘safety’ something that is abusive by nature. There’s no such thing and the state can’t legitimize something thats illegitimate.
The only people who think thats a good idea are those who haven’t seen the dark side of prostitution. Painting over it with nice ideas doesn’t make it any less seedy, manipulative and soul destroying. NO girl ever woke up one day and said, ‘Id really love to be a prostitute when I grow up’ But they do. Because they’re out of options. So the solution is not to find ‘cures’ its to continue to make it illegal and embarrassing as hell for the men who use those services. Its amazing how shining a spotlight on their activity suddenly makes them go home. I wonder why.
You are painting sex work as all back alley prostitution, but it is not all like that.
You also have high end escorts, and high end call girls that only deal with rich clients, charging $4000 a night. In those cases the women set their terms, and it is sex amongst consenting adults. Its not a strong arm pimp forcing poor women to work, or a homeless young women needing to survive.
Unless you somehow think sex between consenting adults becomes abuse once they take the $4000?
Unless you somehow think sex between consenting adults becomes abuse once they take the $4000?
No its just soul crushing and degrading that’s all. $40 or $4000 doesnt matter, its still giving up one’s dignity and autonomy and allowing oneself to be used for money. If its so rewarding why aren’t those call girls advertising their great life to the world? Because they’re not proud of what they do, and neither are their parents, that’s why. Yes, it matters.
Find me the pre teen girl that woke up one morning and said, ‘Id really love to be a call girl when I grow up’. They dont. But I would bet you that you WOULD find about 99% of them have been used and abused before they got into that lifestyle. I have literally had a young prostitute say to me, “Well, I’m going to be used anyway, I may as well get paid for it” Does that sound like someone who’s happy in their ‘chosen profession’?
Yeah most of them, if they need to, validate it by marrying their ‘johns’. Transactional marriages are a thing. No less abusive or degrading or soul crushing but to conservative men it is an acceptable way of doing the business. I don’t think you are privy to what all sex workers think of their work. There are definitely some that are in a business they like and want to have. Your squeamishness shouldn’t dictate their legality.
its still giving up one’s dignity and autonomy and allowing oneself to be used for money. If its so rewarding why aren’t those call girls advertising their great life to the world? Because they’re not proud of what they do, and neither are their parents, that’s why. Yes, it matters.
As a guy this is definitely my knee jerk reaction, but I have women friends who seem way more dialed in to the whole sex positive/sex work scene than I am, and I generally just defer to them in this case, cuz it’s way over my head.
And they seem to disagree with what you’re saying.
You cant regulate into ‘safety’ something that is abusive by nature. There’s no such thing and the state can’t legitimize something thats illegitimate. The only people who think thats a good idea are those who haven’t seen the dark side of prostitution. Painting over it with nice ideas doesn’t make it any less seedy, manipulative and soul destroying. NO girl ever woke up one day and said, ‘Id really love to be a prostitute when I grow up’ But they do. Because they’re out of options. So the solution is not to find ‘cures’ its to continue to make it illegal and embarrassing as hell for the men who use those services. Its amazing how shining a spotlight on their activity suddenly makes them go home. I wonder why.
I immediately feel sorry for anyone you have ever had sex with.
You are painting sex work as all back alley prostitution, but it is not all like that.
You also have high end escorts, and high end call girls that only deal with rich clients, charging $4000 a night. In those cases the women set their terms, and it is sex amongst consenting adults. Its not a strong arm pimp forcing poor women to work, or a homeless young women needing to survive.
Unless you somehow think sex between consenting adults becomes abuse once they take the $4000?
No its just soul crushing and degrading that’s all. $40 or $4000 doesnt matter, its still giving up one’s dignity and autonomy and allowing oneself to be used for money. If its so rewarding why aren’t those call girls advertising their great life to the world? Because they’re not proud of what they do, and neither are their parents, that’s why. Yes, it matters.
Find me the pre teen girl that woke up one morning and said, ‘Id really love to be a call girl when I grow up’. They dont. But I would bet you that you WOULD find about 99% of them have been used and abused before they got into that lifestyle. I have literally had a young prostitute say to me, “Well, I’m going to be used anyway, I may as well get paid for it” Does that sound like someone who’s happy in their ‘chosen profession’?
Yeah most of them, if they need to, validate it by marrying their ‘johns’. Transactional marriages are a thing. No less abusive or degrading or soul crushing but to conservative men it is an acceptable way of doing the business. I don’t think you are privy to what all sex workers think of their work. There are definitely some that are in a business they like and want to have. Your squeamishness shouldn’t dictate their legality.
This reminds me of when I used to work in retail.
As a guy this is definitely my knee jerk reaction, but I have women friends who seem way more dialed in to the whole sex positive/sex work scene than I am, and I generally just defer to them in this case, cuz it’s way over my head.
And they seem to disagree with what you’re saying.
Lol
Disagree with your dense copy-paste.
I just wrote that. If five sentences is too ‘dense’ for you, you can always put it into ChatGPT and ask it to summarize lol
Nah dingleberry, I’ll just read something that’s actually lucid and sane. Good luck, looks like you’ll need it 😂