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NightOwl@lemm.ee to World News@lemmy.ml · 2 years ago

Putin says African proposal could be basis for peace in Ukraine

www.aljazeera.com

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Putin says African proposal could be basis for peace in Ukraine

www.aljazeera.com

NightOwl@lemm.ee to World News@lemmy.ml · 2 years ago
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The proposal floats a series of possible steps to defuse the conflict, including a Russian troop pullback from Ukraine.
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  • Bruno Finger@lemm.ee
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    "how do we hold our fire when they’re advancing on us?” Putin told reporters.

    By leaving. You leave. That’s how you do it.

    • ☭ Blursty ☭@lemmygrad.ml
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      Is this what passes for an intelligent contribution around here?

      Leave them to their murder and ethnic cleansing of minorities? Just leave them to start it up again? Here’s one from yesterday.

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        I don’t think they need help from worse war criminals. So, yes, please fuck off and go home.

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        Damn, i really need to figure out how I can block lemmygrad in its entirety. While there are some interesting people there, I’ve seen 3 separate comments from accounts there posting absolute drivel just in the past 15 minutes!

        • GeekFTW@kbin.social
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          Not sure if it’s in the works for Lemmy but Kbin is working on a proper instance block (we have a domain one right now but that doesn’t block em all). Will be nice once it’s up lol.

        • ☭ Blursty ☭@lemmygrad.ml
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          There’s not many over on reddit?

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    No, it won’t be. You can have peace when you GTFO of Ukraine.

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      Agreed. So why is the west sabotaging all possible peace deals?

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        Russia does not want unconditional surrender, which is the only option for peace.

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          The Minsk accords were a reasonable compromise, but the Americans never let the Ukrainians hold up their end of the bargain. There were then going to be peace talks between Zelenskyy and Putin personally in March 2022 but then the NATO capitalists jetted in Boris Johnson to talk Zelenskyy out of it.

          Russia’s entirely reasonable and very public requests have not changed since 2008 at least.

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            2008, when Russian forces invaded Georgia?

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              A short but crucial intervention to stop the killings of innocent civilians, as the US backed Georgian leader started killing South Ossetians and Abkazians in a severe escalation of the regional conflict. A conflict once again spurred on by the US.

              There are a great many parallels to the post-Madan situation in Ukraine, parallels one should be careful to learn for they will be developed and exploited elsewhere before the US empire is vanquished.

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                Reads like Russian propaganda. Does anyone believe this?

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          There was a peace plan already. Russia didn’t even want to annex the Donbas regions and was only asking for autonomy for them.

          The US wants war as always so they stopped it.

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    The Russian Duma already voted for the annexation of the occupied territories. The article does not state what would be the legal status of the region. It says that many point of the proposal are secret, but I got the feeling that a non trivial point is glossed over.

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      It’s one step further even: They already voted for the annexation of territories that they did never occupy. It’s ludicrous. Russia doesn’t know it’s own exact border claims as these were never specified.

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    “Let me have my way in Africa and maybe I’ll stop being such a prick in Ukraine (I won’t be, though, lol).”

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    Jackson Hinkle has a vid on this. Countetpoint to popular opinion though, be warned.

    youtube.com/watch?v=hajBsd0n8qA

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    ITT: Westoids baying for blood

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