I will no longer be able to assist with development nor debugging actual issues with the software… Quite juvenile behavior from the devs. It stemmed from this issue where the devs continuously argued in public by opening and closing an issue. Anyway, thought I would keep y’all apprised of the situation, since these are the people maintaining the software you are currently using.

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    Someone just linked me this, seems to be a bit of a misunderstanding. Pm me either through here or on matrix and we can try to get it resolved.

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    Everyone is human, everyone makes mistakes. Sometimes people are also in a very bad mood and act weirdly because of that. Let’s not make a big drama out of it.

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    11 months ago

    I think that you should update your post with information that this ban is only for 7 days.

    This:

    I will no longer be able to assist with development

    suggests that ban is infinite, which is not true.

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      Yeah but if you were in this position would really want to contribute again? It’s virtually an indefinite ban when the reason is this absurd.

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      Where do you see that information? I didn’t even know it was possible to do this until last night so not sure how I’m supposed to know how long it lasts.

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          thank you, yes I their comment later on. No, github didn’t even tell me I was banned. I happened to notice because I left the tab open and was moving through them trying to find something else.

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    11 months ago

    Quite juvenile behavior from the devs.

    The constant closing and reopening the issue was a bit weird but I didn’t really see any hostility or toxic behavior, except from you getting pissy about it out of nowhere.

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    Informative, and unfortunate.

    100% agree with your take on the original issue - it should be a discussion between the devs, not edging along the lines of an argument. However, I do feel like the discussion would have been better suited to the dev Matrix chat or something

    Even if they were upsetted by your comments, banning you was not the right way to handle that IMO.

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    Idk I think y’all are a bit too dramatic lol. Imho you’re reading too much into a small aggression. This has nothing to do with the future of Lemmy or anything as grandiose as that

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      This has nothing to do with the future of Lemmy or anything as grandiose as that

      I didn’t say it did. I mentioned that it would affect me, the person who runs the server you’re commenting on. That’s it.

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        Hey bud when was the last time you went outside for a walk in nature and talked to someone in IRL? Because you seem to have created the most useless drama for yourself.

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    Hmm, where have I seen that before? Oh yeah, on PCSX2.

    Your time and talent is better spent elsewhere. Don’t even think about this any longer.

    You wanted to help and they acted in this way. You made yourself clear, so it’s on them to reevaluate.

    Your time isn’t free, so don’t spend it on stupid people. I know you’re passionate and want to help, but sometimes it unfortunately comes down to this.

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    You kept posting offtopic comments which added nothing to resolving the issue. So I gave you a seven day ban, hopefully it will teach you a lesson.

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      The comments read like you banned the dev for making a telling point in favor of reopening the ticket.

      The lesson I take away is that your ego is more important to you than improving Lemmy.

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        The issue was already open. I gave a temporary ban for posting pointless complaints which added nothing to resolving the issue.

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      My first comment directly discusses the issue at hand. It wasn’t off topic. It’s clear you didn’t want any feedback on the issue because it makes you look bad. I explicitly talked about how client side scheduling is a bad idea that does not accomplish the goal of scheduling. And then I gave feedback directly concerning the exact issue I was commenting on of how your conduct was unfitting of lead devs of a major software project, where you squabbled in public in a really weird way, and you refused to even think about discussing the topic (closing the issue over and over again when your coworker had opened it and asked for discussion? Really dude?). Then you finally banned me without any warning or discussion of why.

      And no, it’s not going to teach me any lesson, all it did was teach the entire community you have no clue how to run an open source software project. No warning, no explanation, just juvenile marking of comments as off topic (they weren’t), closing of the issue your main dev opened and then boom banned.

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        My comment about scheduling in clients was from January and that option was already discarded by dessalines on the next day. No use in rehashing the same thing ten months later. All you are doing is creating pointless notifications for everyone. I know its not ideal to close and reopen an issue, but really why is it a big deal? We closed hundreds of issues recently which were outdated, invalid or already fixed. I accidentally closed one that still needs to be implemented and dessalines reopened it, so everything is fine. Certainly not a “squabble”, and your comments added nothing at all.

        Its true that I shouldnt have given a warning first, but most likely you would have responded with another offtopic complaint so I didnt see any use in that. If you want to complain then do it somewhere else, not on the issue tracker which is meant for getting work done.

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          You marked all his comments in the federation bug issue off-topic, but none of them seem off topic and give you details which you quote and respond and even ask follow up questions for. How is it anything other than being petty to mark those comments off-topic?

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            Youre right, my mistake. Ive manually unhidden all his comments, except those in #234.

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      hopefully it will teach you a lesson.

      Egos are terribly ugly. Please put yours away.

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    Lemmy needs a fork, if only to kick the devs into gear with regards to actually working with/listening to the community. At this point a significant number of users have been lost because the devs have been largely unable to capitalize on previous waves on growth due to slow development. It’s one thing if it’s just a couple of devs working on the project and trying their best, it’s an entirely different thing when a couple of devs are shutting out large numbers of contributors (frequently subject matter experts which they desperately need at this point) over relatively trivial issues. This isn’t the first time this has happened and it won’t be the last. Mbin is reviving Kbin as a project and we need something similar for Lemmy.