• RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    The kind of statement that only someone with enough financial backing to be set for life even if it doesn’t work out can make.

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      I know plenty of people who implemented this type of strategy when young and poor and are doing well for themselves now. Sometimes you crash and burn, and sometimes it works out. But it’ll never work out if you never try.

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        What type of strategy? Getting lots of financial backing and becoming wealthy?

        If everyone was successful in such endeavors we wouldn’t make such a big deal of rags-to-riches winners. Such successes are the exception, not the rule, which is why we highlight the exceptions.

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          I’m not talking about financial backing, or being wealthy. I’m talking about taking jobs or projects they didn’t really know how to do and figuring it out along the way, eventually becoming upper-middle class when they started out in poverty.

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        Survivors bias. 1 success doesn’t invalidate the hundreds of crash and burns that you never hear about.

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            Crashing and burning is way easier when you have generational wealth to soften the blow. A crash and burn is lethal for people who are a paycheck away from homelessness and drowning in debt.

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            It’s a setback if you don’t like being on fire, which I’d wager is most people.

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          So what’s your point? Never try to improve your life? Never jump at opportunity? You’re not guaranteed to succeed, but you’re guaranteed to fail if you don’t try. The only people I know who haven’t improved their life are the people who never tried.

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                If you lack reading comprehension, I don’t know what are you doing here then. I’m not responsible for your bad faith imaginary online arguments.

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      And it assumes people just give you opportunities every once and a while.

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        There’s always opportunity.

        But that’s like asking someone in the lower middle class to offshore their money, make LLCs, and invest in failed businesses on the premise of turning them around for a profit. None of that makes sense. It’s far too high a risk. Too much of the average person’s capital is just wrapped up in daily costs.

        Opportunity has a cost, and that cost is too high for the vast majority of people.

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        Although we can’t know if you just let opportunity walk right by you and you ignored it or judged it. No one is obliged to slap you in your face with it or hand it to you on a silver platter with your exact order in mind.

        I’ve known too many people who turned down a job while they felt they were inexperienced/oversold their experience for the pay rate/ had many reservations(besides pay) about the job over innocuous things like they didn’t like equal opportunities and kept comparing themselves as too good for everyone else. Or refused to go in on entry level when they had no experience to begin with. Or purposely price themselves out of what a client can afford. …and while they dawdled the job gets given to the next candidate and then they complain they can’t find a job or ‘someone is stealing their jerbs’

        Not finding a job and not taking a job aren’t the same thing.

        Chances are: opportunities are more frequent than a person using common sense

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          It’s so much easier to judge people as stupid/lazy/afraid than to understand that taking risks is a luxury not everyone can afford…

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            And yet that still isn’t the argument to support opportunity ‘never’ knocks. It only gives a reason for a person to not take it. Not that it never happens.

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      Tbh, I’ve never been more than “can put a little bit of money aside” and am currently not even that, but that’s how I’ve rolled in life and its served me alright.

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        I’m doing really well financially without taking stupid risks or making trite billionaire statements, and an understand that failure when making millions vs a few tens of thousands every year are not remotely in the same category.

        Do you blame everyone for not being rich while thinking your hired yard service costs too much?