Absolutely needed: to get high efficiency for this beast ā¦ as it gets better, weāll become too dependent.
āall of this growth is for a new technology thatās still finding its footing, and in many applicationsāeducation, medical advice, legal analysisāmight be the wrong tool for the job,ā
Thatās because it IS an issue, together with many other issues like disinformation, over reliance, wrong tools for wrong (most) jobs, etc.
Ypu know what I donāt hear on lemmy? People complaining that crypto world consumes more energy than AI world and one of those is far more useless in grand scheme of things.
So how comes it is A issue for AI, but everyone seemingly has forgotten about crypto?
Last I heard, securing one transaction on chain is equalivent to powering US household for many days (feel free to fact check). In comparison, generating LLM text for entire hour on your PC is pretty much the same as gaming for two hours (very approx., your gpu is unlikely at 100% load), which means gaming world is far more destructive energy wise. Are you getting triggered yet?
Thatās because one has all the big tech companies madly rushing to implement it everywhere, while the other even Ubisoft has abandoned and is more or less stuck to their own cult
What stone did you live under? The huge power consumption of crypto was often debated. You just donāt hear too much about it because people donāt really talk about crypto much anymore. Now itās mostly just people pro crypto who discuss it. And obviously they tend to talk leas about the downsides.
Eh, that enormous energy consumption hasnāt change, yāknow. For Bitcoin, for example, the basic concept is still that ALL wallets have to process ALL transactions, which scales as well as studfing a walrus in a mini Cooper. Bitcoin is extremely energy inefficient and is simply not a good replacement for transactions for the entire world.
Same goes for all other block chain technologies, theyāre fundamentally flawed and wonāt ever be good. If you want a good alternative to visa and MasterCard, youāll need something fundamentally different from blockchain tech.
ā¦ Oh, so so the terawatts of power wasted is no longer a problem because people donāt really speak of it anymore and cryptobros tried to debate it.
If Iām living under a stone, youāre straight up stoned.
I have both heard and said that crypto uses a lot of energy on Lemmy.
What do you think this is, 2016 Tumblr?
This? Hipster 4chan from everything Iāve seen. Altought nowadays 4chan tends to be less hateful/extreme, especially when it comes to calls for genocide/killings of Jews
You donāt hear so much about it because it has faded a bit into the background and crypto bros work hard spreading misinformation about how awesome Bitcoin is.
Technically, blockchain tech is interesting, bit nothing more than that. Blockchain technology is fundamentally flawed. Requiring everyone to confirm the same transactions by having everyone make the same CPU / GPU / memory intensive calculations is just dumb and it wonāt scale to anything that could sustain the daily transactions of even a single small country, let alone the world.
At least AI has a whole lot of pieces that are fundamentally āusefulā. As it currently stands, AI will need completely new concepts and technologies to be able to grow in capabilities and shrink in power requirements, but at least the prices that are there are reasonably useful.
Blockchain technology is fundamentally flawed for just about any application at all.
Having said all that, fuck AI companies. AI could be a great new tool for humanity but instead we hacet all sorts of shitty assistants being shoved down our throats. Oh, and AI revenge porn, that too
Thatās not true if you were to use off-chain transactions (i.e. lightning network)
āThatās not trueā
āBut not true only if you use non-mainstream transaction method that was not part of the original design and is only supported by selected cryptos, meaning not universalā
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I mean, donāt get me wrong, itās nice that things are improving, but itās safe to say that things will improve for AI too (energy-wise), hella lot of people now working on optimization and it looks very promising, even by just splitting large models into many smaller ones by topic
I just wanted to clarify the confusion that was in my head for a moment after going after the truth and fact checking. If I buy a pizza with Bitcoin and Lightning Network (which is the only one in use at most legal places), itās not like Iām using 1600 kWhā¦ The original message is misleading in that regardā¦ Practical and concrete reality are different. But theoretical, if that pizza wanted a normal transaction it would use such amount of energy and take days (thatās why they wouldnāt use that)ā¦ Soā¦ Thereās that.
Anyway, the dichotomy āAI or Cryptoā is false. I am not taking sides. But you do you, enjoy.
the ones that give up on all the ādesirableā aspects of cryptocurrencies? The payment isnāt final until it is on chain. You donāt need to trust anyone to figure out if youāre on the right chain in the first place. Off-chain shit defeats this. Whatās the point, other than dressing up the horse before beating it some more?