I wholeheartedly agree with this blog post. I believe someone on here yesterday was asking about config file locations and setting them manually. This is in the same vein. I can’t tell you how many times a command line method for discovering the location of a config file would have saved me 30 minutes of googling.

  • araquen@beehaw.org
    17·
    1 year ago

    This is the big thing I miss from my “pre-Unix” Mac days. In OS9 and earlier, apps were self contained, and didn’t spread their garbage everywhere. You deleted an app, you deleted all the app. Granted, there was a tradeoff (the parade of conflicting control panels and extensions you had to manually diagnose when your machine went sideways) but I never understood why in the Windows and Linux worlds devs would code so sloppily. Who told that dev my Documents folder is where their nonsense needs to go? That Documents folder is for my use, not theirs.

    Still salty after all these years

    • nothacking@discuss.tchncs.de
      13·
      1 year ago

      I use linux and this annoys me to, every program just spams my home directory with config files, even though .config and .cache exist and are the standard

    • ursakhiin@beehaw.org
      1·
      1 year ago

      Who told that dev my Documents folder is where their nonsense needs to go? That Documents folder is for my use, not theirs.

      Microsoft did for a while. 😜

      • itchychips@lemmy.mlEnglish
        1·
        1 year ago

        There are so many places that games decide to put their save files on Windows.

        I’ve got save directories in:

        • %HOMEDRIVE%%HOMEPATH%\Saved Games (only Elite Dangerous)
        • Documents (Mass Effect Andromeda, X4: Foundations, EVE Online, GreedFall, Wo Long: Fallen Dynasty, SteamVR)
        • Documents\My Games
        • %APPDATA%
        • %LOCALAPPDATA%
        • %APPDATA%..\LocalLow (does not seem to have an environment variable defined for this one)
        • Various game install directories

        There’s probably other places. Not sure how much the registry is used for saves, either, but that would complicate backups more than they already are.

        I’d love if they just unify save and config data for games to %APPDATA%. Documents should never be touched by software without the user’s explicit consent, though, and because of the situation, the Documents directory is the last place I ever put actual documents.

        • Souvlaki@beehaw.orgEnglish
          1·
          1 year ago

          I don’t understand why they took out the Saved Games folder they introduced in Vista. Yes, almost nobody used it in its lifetime, but given enough years - if it stuck around in Windows 10 - i’m sure eventually game developers would come to use it.

          But nope, back to the documents folder we go.

      • araquen@beehaw.org
        1·
        1 year ago

        I get where you’re coming from, but this seems to have been the “lazy” answer, and is certainly not a consumer-friendly solution. Ideally there would have been dedicated directories for application configs where the application has permission to write, and the Documents folder would have been left alone.

        On the Mac, these days, I believe “Application Support” fills this role, but there are still recalcitrant applications that default to the user’s Documents folder. That said, the devs in my company had to end up using the Documents folder for one of our products, something to do with Apple’s security, so I do sympathize. It’s just irksome, especially when you have to get another app to clean up after the apps you’ve installed because those apps uninstallers do not clean up everything.