• HubertManne@piefed.social
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    11 days ago

    Wasn’t the server an actual private server she had setup whereas this is a corporate app that is supposedly private if they are not lying and accessing the data. I mean this is way wore unless they put up a server to run the chat software.

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      11 days ago

      Also, while using the app, there is zero accountability for who told who to do what within the government. FOIA is useless for any conversation happening within that app, self hosted or not.

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        10 days ago

        Yep, OPSEC is definitely a major issue here. But the other problem is like you mention, zero accountability. Additionally, if they delete the chat, there is no way to reobtain the data for historical archive purposes, which is another law violation.

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      10 days ago

      It doesn’t matter what kind of server you’re using. Highly classified information has rules and regulations. Some stuff can only be talked about in certain buildings because the buildings were built to block listening devices.

      This is a major fuck up that could have gotten American soldiers killed. Everyone involved should be in prison.

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        9 days ago

        Everyone involved should be in prison.

        I’m not sure we could prove this was knowing and willful. The Russian recipient of the messages is the most suspicious angle of attack.

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          9 days ago

          Are you suggesting they didn’t know Signal wasn’t an approved platform for sensitive government communication and willfully used it anyway?

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            9 days ago

            Is approval of a communications platform legally required, or just best practice? You can guess what the Republicans will argue.

            Hillary got off for not knowingly leaking documents, so will these guys.

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              8 days ago

              The first message may have been by mistake. Every single message after that was knowing and willful. This isn’t a message between friends. These were highly classified communications between top admin officials. They are aware of the law and policies regarding classified information and willfully engaged in communications on an unsecured platform. Any person could have stopped it after the first message.

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                8 days ago

                The law requires people to knowingly and willfully release confidential information.

                Just using unsecured platforms for communications is not illegal (otherwise Hillary would have been prosecuted).