For all its talk about free markets, the GOP vehemently defends this very not-free-market system. To be fair, the Democrats defend it to the death too, but they don’t pretend like they value free markets, so they’re just greedy and corrupt, not greedy and corrupt hypocrites.
Hillary Clinton, a primary author of the affordable care act which builds upon the system where individuals receive insurance through their employers and Barack Obama who helped make that act law.
It is laughable to suggest that what Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama have done is a reference to “the craziest fringe shit you can find on Twitter”. But sure, let’s get a more modern reference if one is so young to think that 7 years ago is ancient history, Joe Biden, who championed the affordable act as vice president for Barack Obama and continues to do so to this day.
The ACA was an attempt to make the current health system a little better. Sure Biden promotes it, but that doesn’t mean he’s championing the health system overall.
You probably already know that the ACA was originally based on a Republican health plan. Obama went with this rather than Medicare-for-all because he thought it was the only way he could get Republican buy-in to pass any kind of health improvements for citizens. But even so the Republicans demanded all kinds of concessions and watered it down so it ended up being way less effective than intended.
The bottom line here? Health care affordability problems are because Republicans don’t want to fix them.
Also let’s not forget such hits as Bill Clinton attempting a border healthcare reform which died very promptly. Which is why Obama and his advisors chose the republican approach.
Also let’s not ignore that ACA originally had the public option in it. But as always, there is always enough money in bribes to turn just the right amount of Democrats against core wins so that it was a Democrat (I forget the twat’s name) that demanded the public option be stripped from the bill.
With such a great plan from a party known for lifting a sausage-like finger for the poors, ever, I can see why every republican has given it unanimous and resounding support every day since it was (re-)proposed.
It seriously saddens me how much 25 years of GOP propaganda against the Clintons has turned reasonable people among Democrats and those further to the left into parrots that try to pin everything on Hillary or Bill.
There are legitimate criticisms of The Clintons. But they are way less involved than people give them credit for.
To your comment, I have seen no mention of Hillary - then Secretary of State dealing with multiple conflicts - having any involvement in ACA. She had plenty other work. And there were other key advisors Obama picked that were the actually directly tasked with putting together ACA and making it pass.
The question was which Democrats support this healthcare system, and Hillary Clinton is certainly one of them. She repeatedly took credit as a primary force in what eventually became ACA. She even claims “It was called Hillarycare before it was called Obamacare”. This is very easy to find, so one wonders how long you searched. One can certainly take issue with how much credit she deserves and how much of the Clinton plan even ended up in the ACA, but one cannot possibly claim that someone trying to claim credit for ACA doesn’t support it. ACA does little to separate insurance from your employer, the topic of this article, and a serious problem with the US health care system that neither Republicans nor Democrats are addressing. Are people just talking about whatever they want on this thread, or are we talking about the topic of the article?
For all its talk about free markets, the GOP vehemently defends this very not-free-market system. To be fair, the Democrats defend it to the death too, but they don’t pretend like they value free markets, so they’re just greedy and corrupt, not greedy and corrupt hypocrites.
What prominent democrats defend our health care system?
Hillary Clinton, a primary author of the affordable care act which builds upon the system where individuals receive insurance through their employers and Barack Obama who helped make that act law.
I don’t think she’s been prominent in politics since 2016.
It is laughable to suggest that what Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama have done is a reference to “the craziest fringe shit you can find on Twitter”. But sure, let’s get a more modern reference if one is so young to think that 7 years ago is ancient history, Joe Biden, who championed the affordable act as vice president for Barack Obama and continues to do so to this day.
The ACA was an attempt to make the current health system a little better. Sure Biden promotes it, but that doesn’t mean he’s championing the health system overall. You probably already know that the ACA was originally based on a Republican health plan. Obama went with this rather than Medicare-for-all because he thought it was the only way he could get Republican buy-in to pass any kind of health improvements for citizens. But even so the Republicans demanded all kinds of concessions and watered it down so it ended up being way less effective than intended. The bottom line here? Health care affordability problems are because Republicans don’t want to fix them.
Also let’s not forget such hits as Bill Clinton attempting a border healthcare reform which died very promptly. Which is why Obama and his advisors chose the republican approach.
Also let’s not ignore that ACA originally had the public option in it. But as always, there is always enough money in bribes to turn just the right amount of Democrats against core wins so that it was a Democrat (I forget the twat’s name) that demanded the public option be stripped from the bill.
With such a great plan from a party known for lifting a sausage-like finger for the poors, ever, I can see why every republican has given it unanimous and resounding support every day since it was (re-)proposed.
It seriously saddens me how much 25 years of GOP propaganda against the Clintons has turned reasonable people among Democrats and those further to the left into parrots that try to pin everything on Hillary or Bill.
There are legitimate criticisms of The Clintons. But they are way less involved than people give them credit for.
To your comment, I have seen no mention of Hillary - then Secretary of State dealing with multiple conflicts - having any involvement in ACA. She had plenty other work. And there were other key advisors Obama picked that were the actually directly tasked with putting together ACA and making it pass.
The question was which Democrats support this healthcare system, and Hillary Clinton is certainly one of them. She repeatedly took credit as a primary force in what eventually became ACA. She even claims “It was called Hillarycare before it was called Obamacare”. This is very easy to find, so one wonders how long you searched. One can certainly take issue with how much credit she deserves and how much of the Clinton plan even ended up in the ACA, but one cannot possibly claim that someone trying to claim credit for ACA doesn’t support it. ACA does little to separate insurance from your employer, the topic of this article, and a serious problem with the US health care system that neither Republicans nor Democrats are addressing. Are people just talking about whatever they want on this thread, or are we talking about the topic of the article?
To be fair, fuck Hillary Clinton.