Canada’s largest Muslim organisation is outraged over a bill introduced by the Quebec government that would ban headscarves for school support staff and students.
“In Quebec, we made the decision that state and the religion are separate,” said Education Minister Bernard Drainville, CBC News reported. “And today, we say the public schools are separate from religion.”
But the National Council of Canadian Muslims (NCCM), who are challenging in the Supreme Court the original bill that forbids religious symbols being worn by teachers, say the new bill is another infringement on their rights and unfairly targets hijab-wearing Muslims.
“This renewed attack on the fundamental rights of our community is just one of several recent actions taken by this historically unpopular government to bolster their poll numbers by attacking the rights of Muslim Canadians,” the NCCM said in a social media post.
Right…
Damn, I was hoping we wouldn’t have your type around here.
Edit: I really should have quoted the other part, I think you softened the wording (slightly). I just hate the attitude of “blend in or stay out”.
Not sure what my „type“ is. If thinking that people who emigrate need to adjust to new rules and culture, then yes, hate me all you want.
This is not how Canada operates. Canada isn’t a melting pot.
I mean, according to the post, it’s enough of an issue to be made a rule/law. So don’t tell me there are no issues and that’s not how Canada works. Because apparently it does.
The law is specifically about arbitrating the display of religious symbols in government institutions in order to enforce visible separation of church and state. It’s not saying that Muslims have to adopt a different culture. Also, it could very well be unconstitutional. That remains to be seen but there’s a high likelihood.
Isn’t that a good thing? Not sure what you’re on about. Religion and state has nothing to do with each other and should be clearly separated.
Schools are government institutions to an extent. Unless you count private schools.
If I wouldn’t have gone to school, the police would have come and literally taken me there, by order of the state (government) so…
Religion is fine, just keep it private.
If you aren’t considering what the downside of this type of law is, then I don’t think you’re engaging beyond stating your beliefs. Clearly there are problems with it and people have expressed them. And as I said it is likely to be found unconstitutional.
You aren’t even Canadian, you are German. You quite literally don’t even understand that Quebec is simply one region of Canada and their culture is different from the rest of us in many unique and important ways.
I am not Canadian because I live in Europe? Wtf? I was literally born there lmao.
My apologies, I misread your previous comment to mean that you found this thread randomly from your front page, not that you are here because you used to live here.
Either way, you seem to have forgotten that what Quebec does on its own has nothing to do with the rest of us. They even have their own legal system.
Honestly it’s okay and I’m quite shocked by how this all turned out. All I really wanted to say is that religion and public institutions should be CLEARLY separated and have nothing to do with each other at all. And that oppression of women on Muslim countries and their diaspora is a serious issue at times.
I never meant to come off as antagonistic as I obviously did. But I get easily worked up about religious stuff. Now there’s no going back.
If it helps, I hate fundamental Christians that shove their opinion into everyone’s throat just as much.
Fuck me lol. I swear I’m not a racist bigot. I just want religion out of the public and for people to be able to live freely. And if that means some things need to be regulated, then so be it.
I also dislike religion and I’m with you on how harmful it is (raised Catholic, 14 years of faith-based schooling). The problem is the broad assumption that every Muslim woman is being coerced and then using that (wrong) assumption to force other women to wear (or not wear) certain things.
I would love it if all religion just like, ceased to exist one day. But we’re not there, so this law actually promotes religious oppression and, just like all other forms of oppression, I don’t want that for people, especially not in Canada. I don’t feel like banning head coverings actually eliminates the problem of coercion in Muslim communities.
I’m willing to admit that, yes, oppression of Muslim women is a problem within our borders (and Canadian women have been victim to honour killings on and off Canadian soil), but banning coverings doesn’t solve that problem. Banning coverings solves one problem for some women and creates a problem for others. I don’t think it’s good policy and makes Quebecers look even more Islamophobic than they did before.
The Canada I believe in is a mixture of cultures and beliefs. Saying they should assimilate to our (white) ways conflicts with that.
Edit: to be clear, I’m obviously not for oppression of women, but that’s not what it symbolizes to everyone. At a certain point they’re old enough to make their own choices and if they feel better wearing one I prefer to respect that.