I just was involved in a yelling match this morning about Polievre.
Just some background: I’m a farmer in N. Alberta. We farmers love coffee and visiting. There’s half a dozen of us around the shop talking about this, and I safely would say everyone was against Trump, even weirdos that defended him during the election. Even then, though, I’d say the Trumpists here were about 1:10. Now it’s zero.
But one person tried to stand up for Polievre this morning, saying he wasn’t going to back down to Trump. Everyone else, and these are all what you would call older men, between 50 and 70, had a crack at this guy. The prevailing attitude is that Polievre isn’t telling the truth, doesn’t have our backs, and nobody is willing to take the chance that he’s not lying.
That’s in backwoods, buttfuck Alberta. I don’t know if this holds true across the prairies, but this is an area where the word Liberal is an epithet. But I wouldn’t be surprised to see the CPC get decimated at this point, even in rural ridings.
I’m worried Trump will back down when an election is called, and it will take the edge off, and Polievre will get in. I don’t trust the fucker, but most rural voters just need the barest hint of a reason to not vote for the Liberals. In the end, nothing that happens west of Ontario matters, but I imagine if it’s like this here, it’s way more obvious in the East.
The polling suggests that the CPC is capturing young, angry, and terminally online voters same as Trump did. So that’s a bit concerning.
I’m from the east, but have some in-laws from Alberta. Not farmers though, people with family in the oil industry. They seem to 100% support Pollievre and went from Trudeau is evil to Carney is evil before they knew anything about him. So the CPC will probably still do ok in Alberta.
There’s also people who’ve read the newspaper every day of their lives and now that newspaper is owned by postmedia. They tend to hate every prominent Liberal, wonder why?
But yeah Pollievre lost a lot of support in the eastern part of the country. Hearing about the security clearance stuff from family members unprompted, and people are very suspicious of a guy that doesn’t want to even look at the intel about who in his party may be a foreign asset.
Given all of the factors of American oil industry influence, American postmedia influence and American social media influence, I think it will be close.
I live in the Ottawa region and the attitude around here is simply that Trump handed the Liberals the win. I don’t think this election is unsalvageable for the Conservatives (and frankly I think it’s dangerous to think so) but they’ve got a mountain to climb, that’s for sure.
Ontario’s demographic in Toronto and Ottawa could be summed up as “urban conservative”. Interestingly many of them think of themselves as left-wing or progressive and think the same of the Liberals. The reality is very different: they view public servants, the poor, and any other right-wing punching bags as undesirables, they protest any efforts to get housing built, and they even harass striking workers. But hey they’re down with “the gays” so they’re forward thinking right?
I just was involved in a yelling match this morning about Polievre.
Just some background: I’m a farmer in N. Alberta. We farmers love coffee and visiting. There’s half a dozen of us around the shop talking about this, and I safely would say everyone was against Trump, even weirdos that defended him during the election. Even then, though, I’d say the Trumpists here were about 1:10. Now it’s zero.
But one person tried to stand up for Polievre this morning, saying he wasn’t going to back down to Trump. Everyone else, and these are all what you would call older men, between 50 and 70, had a crack at this guy. The prevailing attitude is that Polievre isn’t telling the truth, doesn’t have our backs, and nobody is willing to take the chance that he’s not lying.
That’s in backwoods, buttfuck Alberta. I don’t know if this holds true across the prairies, but this is an area where the word Liberal is an epithet. But I wouldn’t be surprised to see the CPC get decimated at this point, even in rural ridings.
I’m worried Trump will back down when an election is called, and it will take the edge off, and Polievre will get in. I don’t trust the fucker, but most rural voters just need the barest hint of a reason to not vote for the Liberals. In the end, nothing that happens west of Ontario matters, but I imagine if it’s like this here, it’s way more obvious in the East.
The polling suggests that the CPC is capturing young, angry, and terminally online voters same as Trump did. So that’s a bit concerning.
I’m from the east, but have some in-laws from Alberta. Not farmers though, people with family in the oil industry. They seem to 100% support Pollievre and went from Trudeau is evil to Carney is evil before they knew anything about him. So the CPC will probably still do ok in Alberta.
There’s also people who’ve read the newspaper every day of their lives and now that newspaper is owned by postmedia. They tend to hate every prominent Liberal, wonder why?
But yeah Pollievre lost a lot of support in the eastern part of the country. Hearing about the security clearance stuff from family members unprompted, and people are very suspicious of a guy that doesn’t want to even look at the intel about who in his party may be a foreign asset.
Given all of the factors of American oil industry influence, American postmedia influence and American social media influence, I think it will be close.
I live in the Ottawa region and the attitude around here is simply that Trump handed the Liberals the win. I don’t think this election is unsalvageable for the Conservatives (and frankly I think it’s dangerous to think so) but they’ve got a mountain to climb, that’s for sure.
Ontario’s demographic in Toronto and Ottawa could be summed up as “urban conservative”. Interestingly many of them think of themselves as left-wing or progressive and think the same of the Liberals. The reality is very different: they view public servants, the poor, and any other right-wing punching bags as undesirables, they protest any efforts to get housing built, and they even harass striking workers. But hey they’re down with “the gays” so they’re forward thinking right?
I’m sure enough about Polivre to stump for the Liberals. I’m just worried about bursting into flames when I cast a ballot with an L on it.