What era in time do these people think R’s are trying to conserve to, after or before civil rights?
doing this will only push me and other people like me out!
That’s the point. Next, to the camps for you.
Oh hey I’ve met these guys. They’re not well liked by their fellow gays
They’re not well liked.
I think that probably would’ve sufficed. Even the Republicans shun gay Republicans because they don’t want them to exist. Gay Republicans are like the most baffling thing to me. Like a Jewish Nazi.
There were always Jewish Nazis, or at least enablers. They’re called Kapo, which is one of the most insulting words a Jew can call another. When Bergen-Belsen was liberated, the prisoners turned on the Kapos, and lynched 170 of them on the spot.
One of HitlerPig’s closest and most loyal advisors is one: Kapo Stephen “PeeWee Himmler” Miller.
Perhaps we should extend the meaning to include gay Republicans, or at least gay MAGAs.
Gay people can be gullible and naive too. Nobody said they were perfect.
“When i vote R, i didn’t think” sums it up nicely.
I’m also pro 2nd Amendment, but I’m not a stupid single issue voter, democracy is more important than guns lol.
Also, when the fuck was trump ever “pro 2nd amendment”
Remember: “Take their guns first, due process later”
Why do right-wingers think this guy is “pro 2nd amendment”? 🤣
I am pro second amendment. I believe the constitution explicitly grants the states the right to regulate militias.
Fun facts: The 2nd amendment was created before bullets let alone bump stocks. Kamala was a gun owner. Trump isn’t allowed to own one because he’s a convicted rapist.
It’s because he’s a convicted felon. The rape thing was in civil court.
Not just before bullets and rifling, but firearms were single shot muzzle loaded.
Im pro 2ndA Democrat as well but this who thing is pretty damning proof that there is no need for guns because we Wouldn’t use them anyways.
But damn guns are fun to shoot… But im not sure the pros outweigh the cons anymore since the biggest pro seems to be a lie and the biggest con is how many of us die needlessly to them.
Yeah so I’m not using my guns to enact violent revolution. But if the neo-SS comes to take me to a slave camp, they’re going to have a bad day.
Its Regression not conservatism. Quit calling it that. There is nothing wrong with a conservative outlook. The maga don’t have a conservative outlook. They have a regressive one.
They don’t know they’re the same picture
There is nothing wrong with a conservative outlook.
When you’re living in comfort and you benefit from the status quo and you prize stability over the perceived benefits of change, there’s an argument for a conservative outlook.
But I’ve been living under Conservative governance in my home state of Texas for forty years. The pattern of police enforced racial castes, privatization of public institutions, and ecologically unsustainable consumption has been ongoing for my entire life. This is what conservatives are fighting to defend. Misogyny. Supremacy. Homogeneity. A wild imbalance in economic opportunity. Its too late to try and rebrand this as “bad” conservatism.
Trump’s policies are more extreme than what came before, but the impulses remain the same. It is the composition of American elites that has changed.
The maga don’t have a conservative outlook.
The Red Hats are the children of Goldwater/Reagan and they are shepherding Paleoconservative Libertarianism to its logical end game. They were raised to believe in Galt’s Gulch and Friedman’s free market fetishism. They were raised to believe in Evangelical Christianity and Christian Dominionism. They were raised to believe in winning the Cold War at all costs.
And what they’re doing has plenty of historic parallels - from Nixon’s War on Crime to Eisenhower’s Operation Wetback to McKinley’s Jim Crow. They’re White Nationalists embracing White Nationalism, on the belief that the Peace Dividend they reaped in the 90s was a Heavenly Mandate to Do As Thou Wilt. If you carve off all the QAnon cultism and bigotry, what you’ve got are a bunch of Gen X and Y folks who are fighting to preserve the segregation and the implicit international hegemony they enjoyed when the Iron Curtain fell and America was the uncontested global superpower.
It is conservatism in root and branch. A philosophy flailing in the face of a diminished empire to preserve the icons of prosperity their elders once enjoyed.
Real question, how can someone be conservative while still supporting progress? Doesn’t the entire ideology hinge on things never changing?
There’s a continuum between nothing ever changes ever, and through away everything and start again from scratch. In practice, actual little-c conservatives are often called invrementalists, because no one is all the way to one end of the spectrum.
The point here is that Conversatism is not actually a conservative ideology. They actually want to change a lot. In fact, the current administration might be the least conservative one we’ve had. They are much more in the “move fast and break things” camp, which is at the opposite end of the spectrum.
I think what happened with conservative movements, is they tend to adopt genuinely conservative positions. But then as the world changes around them they are conservative in updateing their positions, so end up having a collection of regressive positions.
The actual conservatives in America’s current political environment is the conservative wing of the Democratic party.
Conservatism is as broad of a term as liberalism. That said, there is a brand of conservatism that do support progress, but wants to do so in an incrementalist way, which is basically the Democratic Party now that I think about it.
If someone becomes a conservative in 1995, they want to conserve the current state of society, no? Since society has progressed to a different state in those 30 years, does that not mean this person would want to regress back to the 1995 version? Conservativism is just delayed regressivism.
People need to stop treating this like team sports. If a party does not represent you then don’t vote for them. It’s really that simple.
Tribalism at its finest
The Democrats don’t represent most of the people who vote for them, either. They’re just not nearly as bad as Republicans.
Which is why, while I do vote democrat, I am not a democrat. Their interests are more aligned with mine than the republicans, even though they might as well both be on the god damn moon.
People identifying so strongly with some political party like this is so weird and disgusting, regardless of party.
That’s the next level. First we need to get people to stop voting against themselves.
You’re making way to hard for most people out there.
/s <<just incase
Oh man that’s the stuff. That man is actually opening the leopards mouth and placing his face right in.
They claimed to accept black people way before you, and they didn’t (look at the sieg heils and white supremacy claims). They only pretended to accept gay people recently, and you thought this was serious?
Time to break out ol’ trusty.
“Dear Republicans. When I voted to have people’s rights stripped away and their lives ruined, I didn’t think it included me!”
Eat shit, asshole.
Dear Trump, I wrote you, but you still ain’t callin’, I left my cell, my pager, and my home phone at the bottom
and should gulp it down with a warm jug of piss for good measure.
Same sex marriage was such a good example of democracy working. MA stood alone, defiant and proud, for years. Then some of the neighboring states went “You know what? They didn’t get smote with fire and brimstone. Maybe I can do that too.”
Only 10 years after Massachusetts took the first step, it was growing past the recently blue states as voters came around to accepting it, and if it had another 5 years, we would’ve been taking would-be holdouts like Texas.
That process was cut short, but I haven’t seen any polling that suggests we’re not still collectively sliding that direction, so even if the supreme court reverses Obergefell v. Hodges, I don’t think there’s popular support for bans this time.
But they already exist. My state constitution has a prohibition on recognition of gay marriages. These laws won’t stay nullified and have to be reestablished. And much like we see with abortion they’re going to next go for a nationwide ban.
“But im a good Jew, I’ll happily walk to my death voluntarily”
This asshole will be trying to explain to the guards that he voted for Trump and not like these groomers as he’s loaded onto the next bus headed for the camps.
They really are stupid aren’t they.
Many want Trump voters to be this kind of evil villain, but if you know any, they’re dumb, arrogant, fragile assholes.
Never assume malfeasance where plain incompetence will suffice as an explanation.
Where that falls short is just how much of the population that appears to include. I’m all set to believe in plain incompetence, weaponized incompetence, stubborn incompetence …. But 50% of voters?
It’s obviously not an absolutism, though I think we’d be surprised how many people it covers. Propaganda runs deep in this country and the distorted funhouse mirror that they view the world through is pretty effective. Certainly there are bad actors, but it’s a small part of the whole. Even those on “the left” (in truth they are mostly center right) have a skewed and highly misinformed view of politics. Many people’s hearts are in the right place but their brains are mush and the Overton window is so far right that they can’t tell their asses from a hole in the ground. Generational trauma has created a country of Stockholm Syndrome victims who identify with their captors (the rich). To paraphrase Warren Buffet “It’s a class war and the rich are winning”. Working class unity and class consciousness are the only thing that might save us. I’m not convinced that THAT will happen though, given what I see going on and the response. I really hope I’m wrong.
Deep in human history, staying in good graces with our tribe was more important to survival than having beliefs be factual. We are genetically hardwired to pull whatever mental gymnastics are required to maintain membership in the tribe, because our ancestors who failed at that died before passing on their genes. It’s not really stupidity or incompetence, it’s an operating system property.
They’re disgusting Traitors, every last one of them. When this is over, we should shun every last one of them from society.
If this is ever done, you’ll find that nobody ever liked that Trump guy anyway. Just like how nobody in Germany voted for Hitler.
“I’ll never leave this party that hates me”
Why?
Because Democrats are icky. They have emotions and feelings and empathy and stuff. Not like real men. /S
Pity they won’t realize until is too late.
Likely not even then
Notice how the author justifies himself. He’s pro-life, 2nd, ect…
This screams “I’m one of the good ones”, and implies that he has internalized homophobia. Anyway, it’s some next level “pick me” shit.
A “pick me” wanker.
Imagine having your head so far up your ass you think Trump is friendly to the gays. HO-LY SHIT! Jesus Americans are so fucking dumb…
USA / UK moron population is undefeated
