I wasn’t really ever suggesting that supporting Palestine would’ve outright won the election. I agree it was more complicated than that. Frankly, I think she lost because her campaign promises were incredibly weak and basically amounted to “Biden, again.” Almost nobody wanted that, so of course she lost! My goal with my comment was simply to push back against all the voter-blaming I see, which I consider both insane and callous for the variety of reasons I’ve already elaborated on.
Anyway, for what it’s worth, while it’s true that most Americans still support Israel, that number is dropping fast and is drastically different amongst Democrats. Which is rather important for a Democrat’s election campaign. Besides, let’s not worry about what Trump’s messaging would’ve been; if you don’t give fascists ammo to shoot you with, they make it up themselves. Basing your strategy around whether he’ll call you names is a losing move, because he’ll do it regardless.
The messaging which relentlessly connected Harris directly to the genocide in Gaza is only what they deploy against you,
Gonna be blunt for a sec: Maybe we heard it a lot because hospitals were being bombed? Leftists tend to get mad about that kind of thing.
Seriously, Biden’s admin sent Israel all the military equipment it could ask for, and Harris indicated several times she planned on continuing that trend. It’s not a right-wing psy-op, it’s war crimes.
What’s the impact of Biden’s policies on climate change? So far and then as calculated for the future?
What’s the impact of his policies on working class wages, as of the end of his term?
I’m curious if you know the answers to those questions. In another reality, those would be vital issues to some people in the same way that Gaza was a vital issue to some people, but I’ll wager that the relative importance that the media you consume placed on those three issues is basically skewed towards Gaza by an amount so close to 100% that it might as well be.
And, those were affirmative actions on his part, not just sort of “aiding and abetting” extensively with some efforts to stop it. Not that I’m saying it excuses his war-criminal support for Israel. I’m just saying that, when it’s not complicated, he came out swinging in a big way to do actually good things, which is pretty unusual for an American politician. I don’t know if you realize it, but ““Biden, again.” Almost nobody wanted that” is a textbook propaganda framing, sort of indirectly implying (quite effectively) that he did nothing of value.
And, of course, refusing to vote for Harris because of Gaza is about the stupidest strategy you could possibly pursue. It’s now more likely than not, I think, that Gaza simply won’t exist by the end of Trump’s term.
I wasn’t really ever suggesting that supporting Palestine would’ve outright won the election. I agree it was more complicated than that. Frankly, I think she lost because her campaign promises were incredibly weak and basically amounted to “Biden, again.” Almost nobody wanted that, so of course she lost! My goal with my comment was simply to push back against all the voter-blaming I see, which I consider both insane and callous for the variety of reasons I’ve already elaborated on.
Anyway, for what it’s worth, while it’s true that most Americans still support Israel, that number is dropping fast and is drastically different amongst Democrats. Which is rather important for a Democrat’s election campaign. Besides, let’s not worry about what Trump’s messaging would’ve been; if you don’t give fascists ammo to shoot you with, they make it up themselves. Basing your strategy around whether he’ll call you names is a losing move, because he’ll do it regardless.
Gonna be blunt for a sec: Maybe we heard it a lot because hospitals were being bombed? Leftists tend to get mad about that kind of thing.
Seriously, Biden’s admin sent Israel all the military equipment it could ask for, and Harris indicated several times she planned on continuing that trend. It’s not a right-wing psy-op, it’s war crimes.
What’s the impact of Biden’s policies on climate change? So far and then as calculated for the future?
What’s the impact of his policies on working class wages, as of the end of his term?
I’m curious if you know the answers to those questions. In another reality, those would be vital issues to some people in the same way that Gaza was a vital issue to some people, but I’ll wager that the relative importance that the media you consume placed on those three issues is basically skewed towards Gaza by an amount so close to 100% that it might as well be.
And, those were affirmative actions on his part, not just sort of “aiding and abetting” extensively with some efforts to stop it. Not that I’m saying it excuses his war-criminal support for Israel. I’m just saying that, when it’s not complicated, he came out swinging in a big way to do actually good things, which is pretty unusual for an American politician. I don’t know if you realize it, but ““Biden, again.” Almost nobody wanted that” is a textbook propaganda framing, sort of indirectly implying (quite effectively) that he did nothing of value.
And, of course, refusing to vote for Harris because of Gaza is about the stupidest strategy you could possibly pursue. It’s now more likely than not, I think, that Gaza simply won’t exist by the end of Trump’s term.