He said speaking up during the address was the best way “get across to a person who uses his incivility, who uses his incivility against our civility.”

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    Why didn’t every Democrat step forward and PHYSICALLY bar him from being removed. They just sat there and let him be ejected. STAND THE FUCK UP

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      I thought the same thing. Then I thought about how powerful of a visual it would have been for each one of them, in turn, to cause a disruption and be escorted out. Let the cameras pan over a half filled chamber after 2 hours of meticulous protesting. That image would be in history books 100 years from now, assuming we all survive the next 4.

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      Because they’re weaker than wet tissue paper.

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        True, unless it comes to fighting progressives in their own party. Then they suddenly remember how to fight.

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      Not saying I disagree with your premise.

      However, there are some strange brew rules that come into play depending on the #of reps in attendance in the house. You dwindle the dem #s enough and you end up allowing the reps the ability to run amok with the kinds of legislation they’re salivating to pass.

      I’m sure this was at top of mind for some of the folks in attendance.

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        You dwindle the dem #s enough and you end up allowing the reps the ability to run amok with the kinds of legislation they’re salivating to pass.

        That’s why there’s also quorum rules. There has to be a minimum of X% of the congresspeople present in anything to count and I’m 99.9% certain that all of the Dems leaving would bring the number present under that even if every single Republican was present.

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      I kept waiting for it! For a moment, I had a swell of hope that they were going to force the Sargeant at Arms to remove them one by one, or else block Al from being removed, something, anything with a little fucking Chutzpah, but nope. They all just sat down, shut up, and waved their stupid little signs. Good job guys, I can’t wait to see your next fundraising text.

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      It reminded me, very randomly, of quote from a book about urban design and how architectural ideas are introduced and accepted by the public… or not.

      From this the “principle of the second man” can be formulated: it is the second man who determines whether the creation of the first man will be carried forward or destroyed…

      It was a golden chance and a room full of cowards let it slip.


      The book is Design of Cities by Edmund Bacon for anyone interested.

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        people who criticize dems from their sofa are the secret spinless trump supporters

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          How’s that party whip taste? Sounds like you’d do well in an authoritarian one-party state as long as the party pretends to be in partial agreement with you.

          I hear Shanghai is lovely this time of year…

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      another armchair general calling for the dems to arm themselves and perform a revolution or else they’re nazi sympathizers

      this is what civil politics in a non banana republic looks like

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        This is very not what civil politics look like unless of course one loves the taste of boot. Mmm boots.

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            Neither that nor am I showing deference to the wealthy traitors running roughshod over our government turning it into an authoritarian kleptocracy.

            There is a middle ground here in the real world.

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              and the dems not rioting was deference yes?

              someone shouting “they didn’t do enough” is contributing to progressive politics and saving us from trump

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                Yes. Suggesting quiet civility in the face of complete disregard for your fellow countrymen is deference. A riot was not suggested. Standing up was.

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                  slicing the ham pretty thinly there but we’ve all got standards for our political theatre i guess

                  it’s the principle isn’t it

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    WHERE WERE THE REST OF THE DEMOCRATS? FUCKING SITTING. They didn’t have the intestinal fortitude to be kindly escorted out like this old dude with a fucking cane; they walked Al out and their collective spine went with him. Johnson told them to shut up and they fucking did; they either sat there quietly with their stupid little signs, went to sleep, or walked out on their own. Fuck you, make me should be the order of the day! I’ve never been more ashamed of the democrats than this absolute display of submission with the slightest bit of bullying. Resistance my ass, resistance doesn’t quietly walk itself out of the building!

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    When it was happening I was hoping deeply that another Democrat would pick after he was removed to filibuster the SOTU. I suppose it’s naive of me but for a moment I thought the democrats had organized an actual visible protest.

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      Apparently, they believe that sitting silently while waving tiny signs sent a stronger message.

      Truly the greatest minds of our time.

      EDIT: PINK! They also wore pink! I almost forgot! Just like everyone else.

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        Those tiny round signs on sticks were absolutely ridiculous. What are they, crossing guards? Might as well be, because crossing guards would have more guts and more principles.

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    Anyone watching it would have been just as angry at the horseshit coming out of Trump’s mouth.

    Literally everything he said was either a lie, some narcissistic ego jerk-off, a shot at Biden, or some racist rant about “most immigrants are murderers”.

    And the clapping and cheering. Disturbing cultism.

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      Wow good job holding a sign! Maybe she can march in a protest next.

      Kudos to Green for actually doing something though. Good to know not all Dems are completely shit.

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    The Democrats seemed unorganized, nobody is leading them like Trump is leading Republicans. Here’s a gimmick I’d like to see them use next time.: Every time Trump says a blatant lie - call it out - LOUD. One by one, watch how many people get thrown out throughout the speech.

    22 Billion cut to HHS is a ton though. Surely that will go toward paying down the deficit? Good on Green for bringing attention to it.

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      It’s an issue in the US that the opposition doesn’t have a leader until the election is getting close, in a parliamentary system Harris would still be their leader until someone else took her place and she would dictate how the party acts in response to the Republicans.

      They also need to learn a lesson from other countries and to form a shadow government.