In general, let’s gently redirect anger away from protest voters.
First, I haven’t seen any evidence suggesting that the volume of protest votes would have impacted the Electoral College. Harris would have likely won Michigan, but that seems to be the extent of what would have happened if all protest votes had flipped to blue. (Please feel free to correct me with evidence if this is inaccurate.)
Second, you’re directing your frustration at the wrong group. The Democratic Party ran a campaign that was basically center right and fostered mass apathy at the polls. That’s the real issue. You can continue to direct anger at non-voters, but all this infighting does little to hold the Democratic Party accountable for running a campaign that encouraged people to literally stay home.
First, I haven’t seen any evidence suggesting that the volume of protest votes would have impacted the Electoral College.
Doesn’t matter. They voted not knowing if they were going to be the deciding factor or not.
all this infighting does little to hold the Democratic Party accountable for running a campaign that encouraged people to literally stay home.
They ran a cleaner, less hateful campaign which focused way more on policy than the Republican’s campaign.
It’s not the campaign that’s the issue. It’s stupid Americans voting against their own best interests because they fell for propaganda and because they always hold the Democratic party to a higher standard. The brunt of the blame lies squarely on the American electorate. Our government is a reflection of our ignorant electorate.
They ran a cleaner, less hateful campaign which focused way more on policy than the Republican’s campaign.
And a much more hateful campaign than the same party’s campaign four years ago. Feel like leaving that out invalidates everything else you are trying to push.
Nah, they get lumped right in with the people that stayed home. They knew they were throwing their vote away because they knew there was zero chance of their party winning the election.
The real issue is that all the protest voters and protest non voters enabled this guy, on purpose, and they know it:
Kilmeade then asked Trump: “Are you on-board with the way the [Israel Defense Force] is taking the fight to Gaza?”
fault doesn’t matter. what matters is influence. the democratic party has SO MUCH MONEY to use for influence, and they used all that influence to basically make the perfect case to voters to conclude that they might as well stay home.
their conclusion was wrong of course, but to the working class american, that’s the image that was successfully projected into their minds.
the democratic party has SO MUCH MONEY to use for influence
How much does money influence matter in an election when you’re up against a party utilizing extreme propaganda and hate/fear as their tools to convince a generally very ignorant electorate?
A lot. It has a lot of influence. I wish the Dems would do propaganda. Instead they catered to suburban conservatives who were already locked in for Trump, all while capitulating to neo-Nazi fearmongering over trans people and the border. Isn’t that just a great use of their resources?
I mean there are consequences to utilizing fear based propaganda to win an election. You need look no further than the Republican party for proof. They are locked in to courting racists for votes now and that’s absolutely detrimental to our society. Two parties giving up the high road and going all in the the low road would lead us down a very dark path.
But then again, how do you run a clean campaign against a dirty campaign and win when Americans are easily influenced by propaganda?
In general, let’s gently redirect anger away from protest voters.
First, I haven’t seen any evidence suggesting that the volume of protest votes would have impacted the Electoral College. Harris would have likely won Michigan, but that seems to be the extent of what would have happened if all protest votes had flipped to blue. (Please feel free to correct me with evidence if this is inaccurate.)
Second, you’re directing your frustration at the wrong group. The Democratic Party ran a campaign that was basically center right and fostered mass apathy at the polls. That’s the real issue. You can continue to direct anger at non-voters, but all this infighting does little to hold the Democratic Party accountable for running a campaign that encouraged people to literally stay home.
Can vouch for Michigan, writing was on the wall as far back as 2023 when the Gaza thing started.
Although I think it still would have been close, Detroit auto was not happy with Biden handing out free money for layoffs.
Doesn’t matter. They voted not knowing if they were going to be the deciding factor or not.
They ran a cleaner, less hateful campaign which focused way more on policy than the Republican’s campaign.
It’s not the campaign that’s the issue. It’s stupid Americans voting against their own best interests because they fell for propaganda and because they always hold the Democratic party to a higher standard. The brunt of the blame lies squarely on the American electorate. Our government is a reflection of our ignorant electorate.
And a much more hateful campaign than the same party’s campaign four years ago. Feel like leaving that out invalidates everything else you are trying to push.
How did they run a hateful campaign?
Nah, they get lumped right in with the people that stayed home. They knew they were throwing their vote away because they knew there was zero chance of their party winning the election.
The real issue is that all the protest voters and protest non voters enabled this guy, on purpose, and they know it:
Kilmeade then asked Trump: “Are you on-board with the way the [Israel Defense Force] is taking the fight to Gaza?”
“You’ve got to finish the problem,” he said.
i’m super excited to see this same strategy with no changes fail a second time XD
By then it will be the third time.
oh wait yeah
Then it sounds like you’re super excited to see an ignorant electorate make stupid decisions again.
We can blame Democrats all day, every day, or we can accept that Americans are pretty fucking dumb and awful at voting.
do you know what sarcasm is
It’s the fault of these idiots. Not the Democratic party.
fault doesn’t matter. what matters is influence. the democratic party has SO MUCH MONEY to use for influence, and they used all that influence to basically make the perfect case to voters to conclude that they might as well stay home.
their conclusion was wrong of course, but to the working class american, that’s the image that was successfully projected into their minds.
How much does money influence matter in an election when you’re up against a party utilizing extreme propaganda and hate/fear as their tools to convince a generally very ignorant electorate?
A lot. It has a lot of influence. I wish the Dems would do propaganda. Instead they catered to suburban conservatives who were already locked in for Trump, all while capitulating to neo-Nazi fearmongering over trans people and the border. Isn’t that just a great use of their resources?
I mean there are consequences to utilizing fear based propaganda to win an election. You need look no further than the Republican party for proof. They are locked in to courting racists for votes now and that’s absolutely detrimental to our society. Two parties giving up the high road and going all in the the low road would lead us down a very dark path.
But then again, how do you run a clean campaign against a dirty campaign and win when Americans are easily influenced by propaganda?
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