• Madison420@lemmy.world
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        4 days ago

        You’re demand for capitulation at the knife-point of civilians will only lead to more deaths.

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        4 days ago

        Now you’re just putting words in my mouth.

        Palestine needs to be liberated from Zionism and fully de-colonized. That Zionists can only imagine this to happen through violence and a counter-genocide tells us everything we need to know about them.

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          You are literally demanding more death. What would happen if you got your wish and the IDF soldiers all dropped dead? We have already seen on October 7th what would happen. Murder, rape, and death of Jews on a huge scale.

          You want more death, not peace.

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              I‘m not supporting the extermination of any population. Peaceful coexistence is the only way forward. You want a continued eternal war against a stronger enemy regardless of how many Palestinians die for it.

              The Allies could have put you in those chambers, but they didn’t.

              My grandfather was one of the millions of Germans ethnically cleansed at the end of the war. Many of my family died during the flight.

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                You can’t claim you want peace when they’re shooting at aid distributors and actively and vocally trying to starve the population. That’s ethnic cleansing and no amount of sob story is going to make you on the right side on this one.

                Total Israel deaths including Oct 7 and all their soldiers ≈1700.

                Total civilian deaths in Gaza ≈57,000

                Or like 33 times as many civilians mostly those under 18 because almost all of the population of Gaza in under 18 and weren’t even alive when Hamas was arguably elected.

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                  You can blame the leadership of the west for that, however quite a few of them enabling Israel are doing so because of false majority results of the elections with first-past-the-post. You dont see Spain or Ireland enabling Israel because proportional representation keeps them accountable to the majority of voters.

                  And you can’t personally blame the above commenter for the evil actions of others.

                  • Madison420@lemmy.world
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                    3 days ago

                    No you can blame Israel the people pulling the trigger.

                    No I can blame them for refusing to see the forest for the trees. Both can be bad one just isn’t actively genociding the other.

                • Samskara@sh.itjust.works
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                  Total Israel deaths including Oct 7 and all their soldiers ≈1700.

                  Most of those were killed during only one day.

                  Total civilian deaths in Gaza ≈57,000

                  Killed over the course of two years. There’s no separate numbers for civilians and combatants in Gaza.

                  Not enough dead Jews is what you’re complaining about?