Ah, I see, you’re referring to those “good russians” some people keep mentioning.

Guys, I really enjoyed your conversation. Deep, insightful and respectful. Given a chance, I’ll buy you a beer.

Thank you for this

I personally prefer an analogy of a surgeon. Cutting people with sharp objects is bad, but when it’s for the benefit of a patient, it is a lesser damage and thus acceptable. Utilitarianism, if you like.

Those dead Russians came with an intention of killing as many Ukrainians as possible to achieve the aim of their leader. Killing them is a shame, but it’s the last available measure to reduce the number of people killed.

So to your question, if wishing to stop the killings makes one Ukrainian, then yes, everybody here is one. I thought just humans, but sure.

There’s a difference between getting excited over seeing a dead body and feeling hope that Ukraine is not losing when seeing invaders stopped.

Yes, they are humans, but they are humans that took the weapons and came to another country with the intent of killing people.

It’s just business https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-black-widows-scam-soldiers-death-benefits/33390012.html

They are humans and must be seen as such. The crazy part is that it’s humans like you and me that decide to do terrible things.

After ww2 there was a question whether fascism is something specific to Germans, they have an unusual number of psychopaths, etc.

And the conclusion was that it’s just normal people doing their everyday work. Be it accounting or operating a gas chamber.

Slip into fascism is gradual and no country is immune from that.

My bad. The 1:1.3 is the KIA:WIA ratio. https://www.kyivpost.com/post/61678

Also they’re happy to declare MIA because that let’s them skip a payment to the widow.

The UN is a do-nothing by design. The only way it can influence something is by creating peer pressure, which, quite obviously, has little effect on big bullies with veto rights.

And ironically, demanding a UN-governance is actually several steps down from the maximalist demands of pootler - they started with the idea of complete elimination of the Ukrainian state, went into demanding territory that they will take decades and millions of lives to occupy, now to a neutral, not even puppet government.

They’re winning so hard.

I read they’re now at 1:1.3 for KIA:MIA and not because of lacking healthcare, but they don’t bother trying to evacuate the wounded.

Now I’m really curious about what happened. Did the ruzzians try to break the cauldron or out of?

If anything, ruZZia already lost and Ukraine already won this war simply because ruZZia could not (and will not. Yes Ukrainians are tired, but their army and the support from EU is much better that at the beginning, while ruZZian situation is the exact opposite) achieve any of its goals from 3 years ago.

So the question is not whether there’s a win scenario for Ukraine, but how bad ruZZia will lose.

it’s fascinating that from the headline it’s absolutely unclear whether the protests are even related to the 16 kills. if i were glancing (and wasn’t aware of the situation), i would’ve thought that 16 were killed as Israeli finally listened to the protesters or something.

“protesters in Israel” (must be some foreigners) vs “Israeli strike”.

while they actually demand a ceasefire that will allow for release of hostages, and their government does everything to avoid that ceasefire. oh, and then there’s “strike kills 16” leaving it ambiguous whether military or war crimes.

also ceasefire implies both sides are fighting. from what i can tell Hamas pretty much stopped fighting almost two years ago.

“Israeli protesters demand their military to stop attacking Gaza, as Israeli army kills 16 civilians and journalists in an attack on a hospital in Gaza in another apparent war crime”.

how about now?

Before the war just one friend of mine switched. After the start, virtually every one did.

To your direct question, ruZZia occupied 1% of territory from the beginning of the full invasion. No big cities, iirc. So a lot of people affected, but not a lot a lot to introduce statistical change if that scale.

Life, mostly.

Amigo. It’s security guarantees against your further escalation and retaliation. One doesn’t include cancer’s opinion in the treatment plan.

Bro. Do you mean “what about discussing them without input from the country that violently invaded”?

I think that having difficulty noticing tiredness, exhaustion or hunger is a major symptom of ADHD. Do discuss this with your doctor, your dose might be not yet right.

They’re building those underground now. https://mindev.gov.ua/en/news/do-kintsia-roku-bude-pobudovano-blyzko-200-pidzemnykh-shkil-oleksii-kuleba

I believe your argument is an example of whataboutism. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism

While you’re not wrong that people in general tend to care more about matters directly affecting them, this fact is simply not relevant to the original fact that peace for ruZZia can only mean their complete victory and genocide for Ukrainians.