It’s a PITA because there are a dozen different installation methods, and if anything at all is not functioning perfectly, the only advice you’ll get is typing random commands into the terminal that report back some generic error that you have no idea what to do with.

I’m assuming you have to compile that yourself because it’s in testing

Weird, you don’t have to compile the Windows or Mac versions…? 🤷‍♂️

hope it’s the real one

…why wouldn’t it be the “real one” on their website?

The fact Windows apps are required to check online for updates and then you have to open it in a browser and download and install it yourself is the most garbage experience. You’re just used to it.

…no, they update themselves? Have you just never used anything other than Linux? It’s hard to imagine how you would not know this unless you hadn’t.

It’ll keep it updated and you never have to think about it.

Other than the pop-ups telling you you need to update every 5 minutes?

The Minisforum tablet seems to work well with Linux.

I don’t know a Windows user that hasn’t had to edit registries, for example

You’re experiencing more delusions. 99.9% of Windows users wouldn’t even know what that is.

(with just a vague notion of “some software” when the vast majority is fine)

Again you’re asking me to write out what is a list a mile long. I’m not doing that.

I will give you one example though. I went to download GrayJay yesterday. I got the file. I have no idea what to do with it. Because there are a dozen types of files for Linux and all of them have to be installed differently. I got a folder. I know from years of experience how to install .deb, .rpm, flatpak and appimages, this folder has 398457 files in it and none of them are those. That’s not even getting into how a lot of Linux software, you’re expected to know how to compile the fuckin thing yourself…

You know how to install programs on windows? You download the .exe, double click the file and it installs itself, every time.

You know how to install programs on Mac? You click download on the .dmg, double click the downloaded file and it installs itself, every time.

LOL this is the biggest problem with AI. It gets it right most of the time but it is not remotely trustworthy, which makes it virtually useless.

The fact you just keep repeating “particular hardware or software that does not work” without actually giving an example shows you’re talking out of your ass though

LOL I love it when people get offended because someone disagrees with them and then try to put forward their experience as if it’s a fact. I didn’t repeat anything. I said it literally 1 time. You expect me to sit here and list the dozens of hardware configurations that I’ve personally used that have conflicts with Linux? Hell anything with an Nvidia GPU (which is the vast majority of GPUs in existence) is an exercise in software engineering just to get it functional.

That’s cool. That’s not been my experience at all. Nor has it many many other people. It’s like the number 1 complaint, and the number of delusional people who try to pretend like it doesn’t exist is insane.

The installation is not the problem…

I understand completely and I’m not arguing with you.

They wouldn’t save it from being thrown away if people like you weren’t buying them.

Don’t get me wrong, I’m not trying to say its bad, just that buying from consumer-friendly companies as new is still better, in my opinion.

Buying used is not as bad but still supports the resale value of consumer-hostile devices, which indirectly supports their new value.

They have their shortcomings but it’s all worth it to have pro-sumer hardware, in my opinion. I just can’t bear to give my money to consumer-hostile companies anymore.

Once again, that’s fine so long as you don’t need the things that don’t work.

one drive kept trying to sync my files when the PC was idle. (One drive was disabled!!!)

Welcome to Windows. Basically the entire operating system is malware at this point.

Mine says 99% Steam Deck and 1% Linux, which is weird considering they’re the same thing.

But probably 50% was on my desktop, which also shows up as Steam Deck under Bazzite.

That depends entirely on what you’re trying to do.

Any advice/links for a beginner

you can start installing Proxmox

🤔

I would not look at his guide. If you’ve watched any of Louis’ videos, you already know this guy is a ranting machine. He can go on and on for hours about things. I watched about 15 minutes of his rambling and realized he had gotten basically nowhere. It’s also one of the more complex ways of doing things. Use ZimaOS to get started with the easy button.

Stick with whatever router you have, for starters. You can upgrade later. You don’t necessarily need that at all.

For the actual server I highly recommend this guy. N100 is very common due to being very inexpensive and efficient. You’ll have to add RAM and an SSDs but you probably want to choose exactly how large that is anyway. It has 4xNVMe and 2xSATA, if you decide you want to expand later.

Let me give you 2 big reasons:

1. Linux does not work with the particular hardware or software you want or need to use.
2. It’s a PITA to just do basic stuff.

KZ ZST