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    I’m trans and I’m terrified, terrified for my queer friends and family, terrified for Ukraine and Palestine, and terrified for the planet.

    If you didn’t vote or voted for this piece of shit, fuck you. If you voted for him, you deserve the massive inflation and shit he’s about to put you through.

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      I’m straight and white, and I am also terrified for my queer friends and family. I figured Israel was always a lost cause but Ukraine is going to be so fucking stupid and painful when they get starved after we offered support.

      If you didn’t vote or voted for this piece of shit, FUCK YOU

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        Ukraine was always friendly with the Trump crowd, I think. So is Putin, but this is not as clear cut. Palestine is fucked, but it already was. Vance even said something along not interfering between Israel and Iran, so it’s about equally fucked, maybe even less fucked.

        We live in a world with skewed media picture of what’s happening, and the distortion by Trump people and the distortion by DNC people do not cancel each other out. In some ways they work in the same direction.

        Only the biggest and rawest facts should really be used in the comparison. What both have actually done in full. Not what they promise, not project 2025, just the real things. Weapons, money, territory, and not a token amount with some promise, but all. Same way you pay for groceries. Politicians are like shoplifters.

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          I suspected if she lost it was because she was a woman. Others are saying it was all Gaza and they didn’t vote in protest. A commentor replied to me showing the margins are like 10s of thousands in one state.

          She seem way better than Hillary too. Hillary reminded me of my grandma but in all the bad ways.

          Guess Trump may nuke the whales. Tried to nuke a hurricane.

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      Being that I’m not transgender or American I don’t think I can personally understand everything you’re feeling right now. All I can say is be strong for yourself, and your friends and family; we all need to support each other if we are going to get through this.

      And a double fuck you to anyone who voted for Trump.

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        You’re still going to get fucked. The whole planet is going to get fucked. The MAGAs abolishing the EPA and going full-throttle on fossil fuels is going to make sure of that.

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      Well, provided you won’t get gas-chambered or something, there’s one good thing in this event - the electorate has shown that there’s no way DNC behaves in this arrogant “we know better and we won’t let anyone other than our bosses near power” and wins. First in 2016, second in 2024.

      Then the next election might actually be the last with the existing system in your country. And this one might have been the last with the two old parties competing. I think it’s nice. Provided, again, … .

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      What about the party that lost the election, quite possibly by choosing to enable a genocide further, as it deemed that more important than winning the election? What about the party, that chose to ignore the devastating effects of inflation on normal Americans, instead of providing a concise plan of revamping the economy, as that would anger its billionaire donors?

      Why blame the people instead of the Democratic party leaders, who remained steadfast at the side of the elites, leaving the people to be peddled to by Trump?

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        “what about…”

        I don’t doubt that the Dems had a poor campaign. However, I’m totally allowed to blame the dumbasses that voted for fascism. These dumbasses are ultimately the ones that filled the box for our authoritarian future. I’ll say it again: fuck them.

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          Buckle to the top, kick to the bottom. And you wonder why the authoritarian politicians win…

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              You are only proving it further. This kind of comments sounds just like MAGA voters. And that is part of the issue. How do you want to beat them politically, if you let them influence your political culture in their way?

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                No. I’m tired of people on Lemmy that aren’t even American trying to tell us what to do in our own elections.

                I don’t go astroturfing in posts about your countries politics. So yes, you can fuck right off.

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                  If your country wouldn’t operate multiple military bases in my country, including storing some nuclear warheads here, operating huge lobby groups that captured large parts of my countries press as well as high ranking politicians like chancellors or foreign ministers you had a point. Economically we also have a lot of American investments. Heck the possible next chancellor is an asset of Blackrock. One of the leaders of the fascist party is an asset of Goldman Sachs and neoliberal think tanks.

                  But as Americans are influencing the fate of my country quite extensively, i will voice my opinion about what they should and shouldn’t do. Which i think is a rather small influence compared to military, political and economic influence the US is exerting here.

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        Well now you got what you wanted: the hero to end the genocide. Any minute now they’ll stop the war effort, for fear of further angering the fuhrer

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          Well i guess the 130ish Million people who voted for more genocide got what they wanted.

          And we warned this would happen.

          Because the pro Israel people had a safe vote with Trump. Harris trying not to take a strong stance, while further enabling the genocide tough, alienated people.

          Now the silver lining is that Democrats have a chance to learn, that being against genocide is the only stance a supposedly progressive party can take. But they rather risked and chose to loose the election instead of being steadfast against genocide.

          But you can already see here how people are blaming black and Arab voters. The white supremacy runs deep in both parties, so the idea that anything would have changed under Harris is laughable.

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            The Democrats having the chance to learn is going to be of limited use of Republicans build the fascist autocracy they intend to build.

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              Unfortunately they chose not to learn during the past 8 years.

              They repeated most of the errors they did in 2016, while Trump just did Trump again. That is also why i say the blame lies with the party leaders. This was preventable with setting the right priorities.

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            Shove the third party shit, no one gives a fuck about your favorite Russian asset Jill Stein.

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              “Harris could have won, if she took a clear anti-genocide stance”

              “RuSSIAN ASSETTTSESETSE!!!”

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                Yeah what the fuck ever. You must be gleeful right now. You got exactly what you wanted

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      If there’s any silver lining a meteor might hit us and put us out of our misery before we have to worry about wet bulb temperatures

      • 𝕽𝖚𝖆𝖎𝖉𝖍𝖗𝖎𝖌𝖍@midwest.social
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        There’s a good chance for another major pandemic, and we’re passing the global warming point of no return.

        For better or worse, the US was the biggest player on the planet; now that we’ve fumbled, I think the world is done for. Maybe China could have risen to take the US’s place, but they’re stumbling toward an economic catastrophe, India has their own problems, and Russia is exposed as a bit player. The EU could have been a shining beacon, but they’re struggling with their own rise in fascism. Who else is there? A South American country? They’re barely holding on to their own economies. Canada? Too small - I mean, big country, but not very big population (1/10th of the US). And the US is big enough that when we go down, we’re going to drag a lot of the planet with us. Shit, thanks to Russia and Israel, we’ve been edging into WWIII. Trump’s senile enough to press the button, I have no doubt, and he’ll be completely surrounded by moronic Yes-men this time, with no one to try to talk sense into him. Maybe a relatively quick, fiery end would be better than a painful spiral.

        We’re done as a planet. Some creatures will survive, but humans have used up all the readily available low-tech surface resources - oils, coals, metals - so anything that evolves intelligence after us won’t make it past the stone age. And then, the sun will die.

        At least we have more solid evidence to the answer to Fermi’s paradox. It’d be a bigger question if we weren’t rushing toward our own extinction.

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          I’d thought the Great Filter would be a more formidable event than a reality TV host

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          Count us out. Canada has our own Trump wannabe lined up. He’s been like 20-30 points ahead and we’re no where close to election time.

          Ontario the biggest province stayed home and didn’t bother to vote out the conservative premiere who has been fucking shit up. They all stayed home and handed him another majority. In a year or so we will elect our analog of Trump. Make no mistake he’s stocked the party full of MAGA and Proud Boys. I’m not being dramatic. It’s literally what it is. Within 4 years Canada will be openly aligned with Trump.

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      I thought we escaped the worst timeline where Trump won in 2020, but it seems we never left it. This is even worse… packed SC from the start, granted complete immunity right from the get-go…

      My only solace is that people endure far worse and manage to find some level of happiness. So just gotta endure and take care of each other and our own and keep searching for daylight

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      This is happening all over the world. The USA are just a little further ahead compared to Europe.

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        That’s true, but whataboutism doesn’t help much in a thread about the US election. Besides, in hardly any other democratic country in the world is the far-right or fascist candidate so obviously completely unsuitable: Trump has already been president and has previously made policies contrary to the interests of the idiots who voted for him; he has a criminal record for fraud and has been found guilty in various proceedings for many other crimes, such as sexual harassment, defamation and fraud amounting to millions. It doesn’t get any more obvious than that.

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            OC said America was full of stupid people. I can’t see how that means that the US would be the only country full of stupid people. Of course there are lots and lots of stupid people elsewhere. Pointing that out in the context of the US election sure sounds like whataboutism to me. My only point is that it does not make things any better just because there are other countries with similar issues. But I see what you mean and think you are right: maybe other countries can learn something from this debacle - I don’t have much hope anymore in that regard but we will see.

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        That is simply not true. The extremely varied political landscape of Europe is not comparable to the US…

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      To be fair, isn’t everywhere? Yeah I get it we have some real morons but the uneducated fucks that voted for Trump don’t define us

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    Now watch the effects ripple through the world. Now that a guy like him can be elected, politicians around the world will take note and use the same playbook. And it will probably work.

    We already felt it in France with the 2016 US election, I can’t imagine what the next decade will be like…

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      As a Canadian who has watched our politics slowly try to mimic America’s, I’m terrfieid. As it is our conservative provincial premier is ripping out bike lanes on city streets that have apartments being built right now that offers significantly more bike parking than car parking. Its backwards progress, a signifcant amount of the lanes were just built and now we gotta spend more money ripping them out because some fat conservative feels offended he is too unfit to cycle.

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        I’m fearful for my trans family and friends. Poilievre and Trump is a terrible combination. We are going to need real grassroots political organizing to protect each other and civil disobedience in large numbers to slow the fascists in their persecution and environmental damage. Of course this will be harder than ever but we need to stop waiting for electoral politics to fix things and take action together.

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          First it was ontario is open for business, under pierre all of Canada will be “open for business”. They would sell every ounce of Canadian fresh water to just to watch a dozen people get rich.

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      Germany will follow suit and we will get a conservative hardliner (and sexist boomer) with CDU’s Merz who once voted to keep rape in a marriage legal. He will pave the way for the real fascists from the AfD, who will feel a lot more emboldened now.

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      We’re getting it in Canada soon. Or in what’s left of Canada once fascist USA has finished with us. We have the most extreme, reactionary, hateful Conservative leader ever, who openly panders to fascists, and he’s some 20 points ahead of anyone else in the polls. My worst fear was him coming to power with Trump over the border, but that looks like what’s going to happen. I do not understand people.

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      Watch as Australia votes in a corrupt copper next year for prime minister. Making the same bullshit promises.

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      I swear to god if bolsonaro is elected again here I’m gonna blackout drink for the first time in a decade

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      So as someone from Hungary, we’ve been speedrunning this shit, and the way out seems to be that you need to absolutely publicly destroy the current Democratic party, and get something, anything, that promises positive change as an alternative to fascism. I’m not saying necessarily third party, but at least an internal revolution in the DNC with the new people publicly disclaiming the current people and the status quo.

      Trust me, you don’t want 15 years of Trump like we had.

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    The Supreme Court will be changed for a generation. I’ll never see a moderate court again in my lifetime. Alito and Thomas will step down and Trump will appoint 40 year old partisans to the bench. The damage he is about to inflict on our institutions the next 2 years will be irreparable.

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      If it helps you out-- GCC, late-stage capitalism, non-concern about microplastics, growing ocean acidification, the ongoing destruction upon coral reefs and natural fish populations, etc, were already kicking our arses, and now THIS.

      c/collapse
      r/collapse

      Dudes, we’re friggen’ done after this last, pathetic attempt of an election.

      Must have been a good game, though, eh!? :D

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    So, I always thought it was just a mean bully thing to say, but, as a group, Americans really are dumber than a bag of rocks.

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        Lots of countries are stupid, but not that many have >50% of their population be that incredibly stupid. Usually it’s closer to 20-30%. America takes the gold though.

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          Must be nice to live in a world where you think USA is the only country to elect a moron. I’m Canadian as well. Just wait.

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      The real question is “if they are so stupid why did you lose?” Why didn’t your superior intellect lead you to victory?

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    You reap what you sow, America.

    It’s going to be wild seeing the mass round-up of all the Latinos who voted for him.

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      you likely won’t see it, as freedom of the press will likely be one of the first things to go out the window

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        Oh no. You will see it. I deliver to quite a few businesses that have Latino employees on Visas waiting the required time for citizenship.

        Couple of them were flabbergasted that I was voting for Harris, lol.

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          oh i know it’ll happen, and some people will see it. but it won’t be on any news feed, and if it is, they’ll just be labeled as “subversives” or something similar

          everyone needs to take everything they thought they knew about this country and flush it down the toilet. because it’s gone.

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        Look how tight the labor market got when COVID took a million people out of the workforce. Trump’s talking about deporting 10 million workers and customers. You will absolutely see it, although it may be hard to connect the dots.

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      I know several. They think they’ll be spared for their green cards and citizenships. They don’t realize they are not Americans in the new sense of the word, and the rule of law has been suspended by the Supreme Court. They’re just further down the line. A fascist government needs “an enemy within”. They’ll keep churning through groups, redefining the enemy to hold on to power.

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      ¿Qué esperabas? ¡Habla más alto! ¡No puedo oírte mientras te golpean en el autobús y te deportan!

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    I’m in shock… Good luck to you, American Democracy. It was nice knowing ya.

    This time there’s no saying you didn’t know. This time there’s no saying “well more voters wanted different”. You get what you get, apparently enough people fall for “look over there” types of distractions in politics.

    The clock to progress has been set back at least 10 years. I know digital-age low-information fascism is on its way to Canada and I am definitely not ready.

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      This would be a very opportune time for the fediverse to be flourishing, because i dont see any single private company being able to provide a factual flow of information without getting blocked in the US.

      Any folks on reddit wondering about this?

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    Kind of an unsatisfying but still well deserved “TOLD YOU SO” moment… I knew those fuckers would be moronic enough to vote for this shit faced fascist again, while everyone told me to expect a Harris landslide… The fact that everyone talked about fucking grocery prices, tech research, housing prices, kids, abortions, and other (in the grand scheme of things) irrelevant bullshit that won’t matter anymore, while we’re literally about to seal the deal on our fate as a species, tells you clearly that no one wants to understand where we’re headed and what’s at stake.

    But since nothing matters anymore, here’s some more predictions from yours truly:

    • The US will turn into a fascist state (Tankies: AcKcHyUaLlY… ☝🏻🤡)
    • Ukraine is going to get fucked by Russia, genociding them for good. The only chance here would be if NATO went in to liberate Ukraine before Trump is inaugurated, but neither Biden nor the rest of the West is going to have the balls for that.
    • Moldova will follow right after.
    • Taiwan will get fucked by China.
    • The world will fall into an economic crisis due to the fall of TSMC.
    • The rise of far right extremism & politics will continue within Europe.
    • NATO Alliance will be practically gone.
    • Far right countries in Europe will join Russia.
    • Russia & Friends will invade and annex the Baltic States.
    • The world globally failing to do anything to curb emissions will fall into a climate collapse. Causing food and water shortages, severe natural disasters, millions upon millions of climate refugees - which will get shot at the borders due to the now far right policies. All other issues above will amplify with the world state worsening and becoming more and more unstable.

    TLDR: Nothing fucking matters anymore, we’re done. Thanks, you dumb fucks.

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        Who’s going to war with whom? To me it seems more likely that all the countries are going to embrace totality peacefully.

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      Eh… I don’t know, man. I also see a darker future, but if Trump didn’t do anything like this in 2016, it won’t happen in 2024. He’s older, he’ll just want to play golf.

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        Trump alone isn’t as harmful as the republicans he represents. Trump will sign the bills the republicans bring him and he will mostly appoint republicans to positions of power and issue orders they tell him to.

        On the plus side, liberals might come back from brunch and help resist certain bipartisan policies again. Deportations actually went down under Trump.

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        They have the courts on their side now, along with the senate I think the house as well. They have a literal plan outlined on hundreds of pages on how to transform the US, which is not just Trump, but the majority of the Republican party - along with a bunch of outside influences.

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      A liberal making measurable predictions? That’s new.

      Ukraine is going to get fucked by Russia, genociding them for good.

      1. Genocide in Ukraine. “get fucked” isn’t very easy to measure.

      Moldova will follow right after.

      1. Invasion of/genocide in Moldova are measurable

      Taiwan will get fucked by China.

      1. Invasion of Taiwan. China invading China isn’t that farfetched.

      The world will fall into an economic crisis due to the fall of TSMC.

      1. TSMC will fall or stop exporting chips.

      The rise of far right extremism & politics will continue within Europe.

      Come on, that’s like predicting the sun will rise.

      NATO Alliance will be practically gone.

      1. How do we measure this? Reduction in military spending? Countries leaving NATO?

      Russia & Friends will invade and annex the Baltic States.

      1. Invasion and annexation of the baltic states

      The world globally failing to do anything to curb emissions will fall into a climate collapse. Causing food and water shortages, severe natural disasters, millions upon millions of climate refugees - which will get shot at the borders due to the now far right policies. All other issues above will amplify with the world state worsening and becoming more and more unstable.

      Predicting a train that’s going off a cliff will continue to go off that cliff.

      OK, we have 5, maybe 6 testable predictions. Do you want to give a timeframe so if they don’t happen, you can go back an analyze what caused you to believe these things at the time?

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        A liberal making measurable predictions? That’s new.

        I don’t care about free markets.

        How do we measure this? Reduction in military spending? Countries leaving NATO?

        The US potentially leaves, and / or NATO members won’t actually uphold their promise to defend something like the Baltics, or only through token measures, moving the red line from Russia’s side further and further.

        Predicting a train that’s going off a cliff will continue to go off that cliff.

        Oh please. Even now you’re unsure on whether you want to call me a doomer or agree with my points. A bit earlier and it would’ve been the former.

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          Oh please. Even now you’re unsure on whether you want to call me a doomer or agree with my points.

          The US continuing to do nothing about climate change, continuing to take a fascist approach to refugees, and Europe maintaining the conditions for the far right to continue to rise isn’t agreeable or doomer, it’s just obvious.

          You’ve got a bunch of things that are so absurdly off base I can only hope you go back and critically examine how you were lead to believe them, two things that might happen if the US forces it, and then “and the sky will remain blue”.

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            You’ve got a bunch of things that are so absurdly off base I can only hope you go back and critically examine how you were lead to believe them

            That’s absolutely hysterical to hear from a Ruscist / Tankie.

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              OK, so do we have any timeframes where you’ll go back and say “Huh, so Russia didn’t genocide Ukraine and then invade the baltics and Moldova, and NATO still exists, what did I misunderstand before and what can I do so I don’t get fooled again?”

              Ruscist

              The fall of the USSR was one of the greatest non-war-related humanitarian disasters of the 20th century by life-expectancy, infant mortality, alcoholism, really any metric except oil exports, do you really think I have any positive feelings towards the guys who orchestrated it and are wearing its corpse?

              Tankie

              Learning history and dialectical materialism is like having a crystal ball compared to an idealist understanding of history.

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                Thanks for proving my point oh so wonderfully.

                (Tankies: AcKcHyUaLlY… ☝🏻🤡)

                This is you.

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    Called it, using Allan Lichtman’s own 13 keys principle (in ways that he himself overlooked), and on a heavily downvoted comment.

    Where I was wrong was with how narrow the result would he. It wasn’t even Gore v Bush levels of close unlike when Lichtman’s 13 keys prediction previously failed. Kamala lost the popular vote to a convicted felon that tried to usurp democracy and is the reason why abortion is no longer a federal right. The Republicans spent the last few weeks crapping on Haitians and Puerto Ricans, yet won some districts with large Latino populations.

    This is what happens when Democrats ignore their voter base and choose a cabal of unpopular and uncharismatic candidates to carry the torch. The bar is now so low that we need James Cameron to venture out into the Mariana Trench and lift it back up again…

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      Harris was popular when she first announced. She then proceeded to run to the cold dead embrace of the Biden campaign.

      Progressive policy is more popular than any candidate, if they focused on rent control, free healthcare, free childcare, free college and other immediate, material improvements to people’s conditions, they’d have won in a landslide. Instead they abandoned the rest of the country to pursue the <10% of republicans who weren’t in the bag for Trump.

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        Harris was popular when she first announced.

        I don’t think she was popular when first announced, rather the fact that not-Biden was popular.

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          I’m convinced that Biden would have won.

          I personally believe that this is not Biden’s or Kamala’s fault. It’s the old-school Democrat establishment’s fault. They did Bernie dirty in 2016. And then they did the same to Biden in these elections. Lichtman predicted a Biden win, bad debate performance and all, and the dems fucked it up.

          To be transparent, I still believed Lichtman when he said Harris would win. I will never believe in his stuff again, unless he adds new keys or something.

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            I personally believe that this is not Biden’s or Kamala’s fault. It’s the old-school Democrat establishment’s fault. They did Bernie dirty in 2016. And then they did the same to Biden in these elections.

            Yes. Every time, even in 2020 when the mood of the country was very different, they are afraid to run anything other than center-right candidates because they “aren’t electable”. Guess what - your corporatist center-right candidates are consistently priming people to receive the protectionist messages from the fascists, Maybe fucking try something different some time, fucking DNC!

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                In the words of my boomer mother, “Things aren’t going to get better until the boomers die off.”

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        Instead they abandoned the rest of the country to pursue the <10% of republicans who weren’t in the bag for Trump.

        YES! I held my nose and voted for her, she turned her back on everything that looked like hope and change during her campaign. Her reaction to R looking weak was to jump to the right, somehow.

        Having said that, anyone who needed to be wooed to not vote for Trump was a lost cause, but she literally turned away from every sort of policy decision that excites Democrats.

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      I think inflation is the biggest part of why Trump won. People wrongly blamed Biden for it. I guess we’ll just have to learn some lessons again.

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      Is there any chance that shit was rigged this time around? As an outsider it’s honestly just crazy to me that the difference can be so huge, almost unimaginable.

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        Or it goes to show how much of a bubble we have here and how skewed the reporting in other countries is. So far there is absolutely no indication that it would be rigged and frankly the disconnect of the liberal online bubbles es emblematic for the disconnect of the Dem party from the people.

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        Even if it were - what are we gonna do about it? After shitting all over the place with their BS for the past four years, claiming an election is stolen has risen to “jet fuel can’t melt steel beams” levels.

        There would need to be a 4k video of Trump and cronies detailing exactly how they were going to do it, and every detail would need to be easily verified, and even then I’m not sure it would get enough traction to matter.

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    I voted for Harris but I can’t help but feel democrats did this to themselves. We’ve held a decent amount of power over the last 20 years but have done shockingly little. Just slowly letting our country dry and shrivel, leaving people increasingly desperate. Times like these make people seek change, ANY CHANGE, including voting for a dictator. Status-quo politics will fail every time during times like these. Who wants to die slowly?

    All authoritarian countries are born from desperation. Chinese communist party, Nazi Germany, the USSR, Iran, North Korea and soon America.

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      They absolutely did. Harris couldn’t even commit to keeping Lina Khan on board.

      Democrats are allergic to success.

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        Yeah, I think a lot of dem voters have grown really apathetic. Democrat leaders hardly do anything so there’s a sense of pointlessness. It feels like their pitch is “we’re gonna fix everything by doing nothing! Trust us guys it’s gonna work this time!”. Trump says a bunch of bat shit crazy stuff that at least makes seem hes committed. I think that’s the key here.

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      Because Democrats wanted to not look partisan instead of actually doing something with their majority

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      Alternatively: stop fucking conservatives and end their bloodlines.

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    Not only are we in the worst timeline…

    I actually don’t have anything to add.

    How did we get here? And even more terrifying how many people that actually went to go vote were surprised that Biden wasn’t on the ticket?!?!

    And let me just go ahead and get myself in trouble. Fuck you every single person that didn’t vote for Kamala Harris that was eligible.

    SPECIFICALLY…

    Well I guess I don’t want to get in trouble that bad.

    Yes, this is the fucking bullshit we live with. Due to our winner-take-all insanely backwards system…

    I’m not technically allowed to properly criticize whomever didn’t show up to the polls.

    Whatever groups they may or may not belong to.

    Yeah I’m sounding like a motherfucking Maga bitch right now…

    But guess what Arab Americans and black men??!?!!? ( if and only if those are demographics that didn’t show up to vote )

    Get completely and totally fucked by the Trump administration. Has nothing to do with me and everything do with them

    Edit:

    For what it’s worth I’m terribly sorry for not including the Latino vote that went to Trump

    Ultimately it doesn’t really matter which particular demographic I blame because the truth is I’m not blaming anyone in particular.

    Fuck America, fuck me, and fuck Trump

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      Oh, there will probably still be an election. It will just be like the ones in Russia that are performative.