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  • ShakingMyHead@awful.systems
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    You know that thing that happened with the AI generated DOOM?

    Well, someone decided to do the same thing with Minecraft, and you can see that the results areā€¦ basically abysmal:
    https://youtu.be/7Jd-Rr9cJYo?si=-9XZ51ss6cBuSiC3 Skip to 2:00 for the actual ā€œgameplayā€.

    TL:DW nothing is saved outside of the view screen, things arenā€™t even saved within the view screen, the resolution is like 240p at 20fps, input latency and mouse latency is awful, and this was all apparently done by training on literal millions of hours of Minecraft footage. The mid-range computer I had from 2006 could run the game better than this. A 14-year-old netbook could run the game better than whatever supercomputer theyā€™re using to render this.

    Note that the person in the video isnā€™t part of the team/whoever that created it, just someone who is reviewing it.

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      maybe iā€™m a weirdo but i actually really like this a lot. if there werenā€™t armies of sycophants chanting outside of all our collective windows about how AI is the future of gamingā€¦ if you look at this ā€œgameā€ as an art object unto itself i think it is actually really engaging

      it reminds me of other ā€œgamesā€ like Marian Kleinebergā€™s Wave Function Collapse and Bananaftā€™s Yedoma Globula. thereā€™s one other on the tip of my tongue where you uploaded an image and it constantly reprojected the image onto the walls of a first-person walking simulator, but i donā€™t recall the name

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        I do like it also, but notice how they try to hide most of these strange effects in their demo video. Theyā€™re trying to pass it off as a playable minecraft. Anything interesting about the technology is a defect to these people.

        They also claim this is ā€œthe first playable AI-generated gameā€ when the exact same sort of thing already existed in 2022 (and it looked a lot more efficient and haunted): https://madebyoll.in/posts/game_emulation_via_dnn/ Maybe it doesnā€™t count if you call it ā€œNeural networkā€ instead of ā€œAIā€.

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          yeah, that ā€œmost of the internet will be Al-generatedā€ nonsense is tanking my ability to take them as domain experts seriously.

          still, something gets me about completely generated, transient-when-youā€™re-not-looking, constantly shifting worlds. might have to collect more examples

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      oh cool, Minecraft LSD: Dream Emulator edition

      which would be a cool concept, if the generative AI model werenā€™t incredibly prohibitively expensive to run, trained on plagiarized videos, and incapable of coherently tracking state (believe it or not, LSD: Dream Emulator does have a gameplay and progression loopā€¦ game-like things without one tend to get dull very quick)

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      Note that the person in the video isnā€™t part of the team/whoever that creates it, just someone who is reviewing it.

      See, thereā€™s the mistake. You canā€™t let outside people actually interact with the thing; you need to stick with cherry-picked 2-3s clips.

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      Iā€™ve seen this floating about quite a bit, and everyone I know is dunking on it - the most frequent comparison Iā€™ve seen is calling it ā€œMinecraft with dementiaā€.

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        It also shows why those DOOM demos were only 2-3 seconds long, because thatā€™s how long it can keep cohesion for.