• PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee
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    5 hours ago

    Let the guy who wants to do even more genocide into office! That’ll show the genociders!

    People really out here wondering how the dems could have such right wing policies while also never showing up during primaries or generals to indicate that moving left will pay anything back.

    Fosters electoral climate where the people who at minimum are sympathetic to the genociders are the majority of likely voters.

    "Why won’t the dems go against the genociders‽ How dare a major political party adopt policy positions that upset a contingent of voters who have consistently demonstrated they can’t be trusted to show up even when you do take the positions they want as evidenced by how they completely abandoned Bernie during the primaries BOTH GODDAMNED TIMES!!!"

    Now to speak as a Palestinian American, your supposed stand for your principals is actively putting my people in even more danger, so quit acting like you’re their ally while you basically use them as a hostage to demand leaders stop letting them be held hostage.

    If you think the answer to Dems being soft on Bibi is to let power back into the hands of the guy who handed him West Bank, East Jerusalem, and The Golan Heights on a silver platter, you’re either a covert zionist, or an unwitting agent of them, either way, you need to sit down and shut the fuck up before you get the people you’re talking over into even more danger.

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      I’ll ask the same question i did on the other thread. Why, do disaffected voters have to …

      [show] up during primaries or generals to indicate that moving left will pay anything back.

      Why not just poll them, or focus-group them, or use proxies like social media?

      You seem to have no problem with the notion of leftist groups communicating preferred policies to Democrat strategists, but then seem to bizarrely assume that the only way to communicate a willingness to vote is to actually vote (for a party you don’t agree with).

      Tell me… We all go out and vote Democrat. They get into power. How do they now know it wasn’t the support for genocide that won them the vote and go even further next time?

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        It’s extremely interesting that democratic politicians have not only managed people (traditional voters) into believing that this genocide is normal but if you demand or say anything against this genocide then these normal people will attack you instead of asking their party leader “Why is it essential for their party to keep supporting genocide?”

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          I think the trick has been to give people a plausible narrative that makes them sound like the clever ones, standard power-play. People love that stuff, myself included, we’re all vulnerable to it. It’s why conspiracy theories work so well, but here, the same psychology is put to use rewarding people for saying stuff that’s obviously morally bankrupt. I think it works the same way a peacock’s tail works in evolution, the idea being that ‘surely no one would say something so obviously awful unless they had a really very complicated and convincing reason’

          It’s allowed some of the decade’s worst atrocities to go virtually unopposed.

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      5 hours ago

      Nu-uh! I said I’m anti Genocide so I can’t do no wrong with my vote! /s

      Sometimes I wish I could vote in the US Elections too. They are much more dramatic then ours.