• Passerby6497@lemmy.world
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    7 months ago

    So do you plan on doing anything about it, or just going to pout about it and feel good about not voting when those people get bombed harder?

    This is just virtue signaling. If you cared about the people you’d want to reduce the harm they’re facing, not try to moralize your bad choice on the Internet.

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      7 months ago

      This is a two-way street though. You’d think the democratic establishment would also want to increase their electoral odds in order to reduce harm.

      Like, the stakes are so high, and it’s so weird to see them betting the horse on Israel. It’s frankly irresponsible for Democrats to be playing politics like that at a time like this.

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        7 months ago

        They’re not betting the house on Israel. They’re hedging. They increased aid to Palestine, they delayed arms shipments, and they’ve been pursuing a ceasefire deal like their lives depended on it.

        You want them to bet the house on Palestine.

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          7 months ago

          Increased what aid? The aid agencies are reporting the warehouses are empty. There is no aid getting in.

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            7 months ago

            US sends aid, Israel or Hamas steals it. You want Biden to put American troops on the ground to ensure distribution?

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              7 months ago

              Then stop sending weapons. If Israel cannot guarantee aid delivery then they should not receive weapons. Especially considering aid delivery is as simple as driving into Gaza and letting starving people grab food. If they can’t keep their settlers from stopping the trucks and they can’t effectively distribute aid then they aren’t in control and we need a UN peacekeeping mission there right away.

              And there is no credible evidence Hamas is stealing aid. Those are just more Israeli claims with no evidence backing them up.

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                7 months ago

                Then stop sending weapons.

                Finally, an actionable demand. I happen to agree. Stick with that. Stop with your extra lies and bullshit.

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                  7 months ago

                  Oh, the IPC ringing literally every alarm bell there is about the man made famine in Gaza is bullshit?

                  Every single NGO telling the world they can’t get Aid trucks in because of Israel’s actions is bullshit?

                  Biden can stop sending aid right now, and he can put immense pressure on Netanyahu to stop this. The fact that he won’t disqualifies him for office in any functioning democracy.

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      7 months ago

      Ah yes all moral actions are just utilitarian so we should abandon morality.