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I avoid it as much as I can. I’m not a fan of the outrage addiction, and I’m highly suspicious of gaining any reliable information about events from an echo-chamber, even if it’s on “my side” of the political spectrum.
That and even if I agree with a lot of the posts you’ll notice that they’re posted by the same people at a very alarming rate. I’ve ran through and blocked anyone who posts the same topic every 6 minutes. Since then my feed has been less monotonous and slightly more authentic.
I blocked one heavy news poster and am probably about to block another. How do people reasonably find time to do this, precluding unfathomable resources and hired help to do everything but eat, sleep and excrete? Even then, why would you want to? I am a month into classes (they are depressing when you realize how business - centric and human adverse they are, but necessary for reasons), and not doing daily short walks and I already miss them. Even if reading and parsing that much news and politics is humanly possible, why would one want to do that?
why
Kremlin or CCP paychecks.
This is not news conducive to either. Please get offline for a while, for your own sake, if not your loved ones.
Ignorance is bliss. Regardless, no need to be rude.
I wasn’t intending rudeness, and did perceive rudeness in the form of bigotry, in yours. I can see how my comment could be perceived that way, and when I feel some weird way about others, I go outside, if only for a few moments (heavy schedule for a few months). Connecting with sunshine, fresh air, green space, watching squirrels, birds, hugging my favorite tree does wonders to preserve my sanity. I hope you’ll give it a try. I’m sorry I came off as rude, I was just taking a quick break between assignments, and I tend to be naturally terse, anyway, with exceptions. Like now.
Fair enough, I appreciate the explanation. I wasn’t being rude either, I’m warning people about how the Kremlin and CCP use shills on social media.
They’re authoritarian governments that regularly oppress, kill, lie, suppress information, and worse. They’re using the age old tactic of divide and conquer on social media because they can’t compete militarily. They’re here on Lemmy, especially on Hexbear, lemmygrad.ml, and Lemmy.ml.
Got a block list to share?
This is a good idea. Perhaps you should make a community that focuses on curating block lists.
Can you export/import block lists?
I asked in a similar thread a while ago and the answer is no, you have to type them each out and as for importing you need to go into each user to block.
In my eyes, there is no avoiding politics. Ignorance is bliss, knowledge is power, and choosing ignorance means choosing to ignore something that directly affects you. I feel I need to know what’s happening in politics, so I can know when and how I can be most effective with direct action. Part of understanding what I see in the news also requires an in-depth understanding of history and other seemingly innocuous news stories, so I have the appropriate historical knowledge to understand how and why it affects politics. Staying informed also protects me from being manipulated by politicians and the specific news I consume.
Maybe the question was avoiding discussing politics? It is not like Lemmy being good source of unbiased news…
Possibly, but it not impossible they meant no politics. I just ended a long term relationship with someone that viewed any political engagement at all as not worth their time. Including a picket line that I had helped organize.
They specifically said “on here” though.
For me the problem is that virtually all political content and discussion online is very low information. Generally no one is conveying anything I haven’t already heard many times, it’s mostly remixing slogans and truisms and finding different ways of expressing the same simplified opinion. Questioning that stuff or asking for nuance to be addressed gets met with aggression. The more I’m exposed to it the more I feel like my brain is rotting, definitely does not feel like I’m learning things.
Generally no one is conveying anything I haven’t already heard many times, it’s mostly remixing slogans and truisms and finding different ways of expressing the same simplified opinion.
The problem with never fixing the problems we all face is that the solutions dont change. You’re not going to hear any new answers if you keep asking the same questions.
How many different ways should we rearrange the chairs on this sinking boat before we abandon ship?
You are missing the point that very often politics requires nuanced discussion, and it is not often you can get it here - people like simple and binary answers. And, if you point to the fact like on Wikipedia which goes against the echo chamber state, you will be reported by some for spreading “dubious information”. Do you really need that?
I don’t know, but what does that even mean? Does it mean anything beyond a call for engagement, a vague imperative statement reworded as a rhetorical question? I am so sick of being asked for my attention when there’s really very little to be paying attention to, or when my input is not needed or wanted.
To expand on what you said, I think many people like that bliss. It’s easier to be ignorant and happy.
choosing ignorance means choosing to ignore something that directly affects you.
what does lemmy have to do with any of this
Like the fucking plague.
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99% of it is American and I’m not. So what the fuck could I even do about it if I wanted to?
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There’s nothing I can do to change someone’s mind on ANY subject on here.
I’m just here to find interesting stuff, make a funny comment or 2 or find answers to some questions I may have. That’s about it.
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Define avoid? Actively repelled by any political discussion?
Or
Will lerk in a political community and not commenting due to not wanting to dip a toe into the toxic gas lighting pool?
Or something normalized in between?
I’m a political lurker for sure. I want to read about people’s ideas - even if they challenge my own. However, I don’t like to debate or have many in depth political conversations myself.
Yes, avoid.
Specifically on lemmy, I tend to keep it to a minimum. Lemmy seems to have an issue with one-sided discussion and lack of nuance, even ourside of the blatant propaganda.
Outside of Lemmy, I follow it, but try to keep it to a low rumble seeing as I can’t really have any effect on it in my country.
Same here
I try and inject nuance into what tends to be mono-culture leftist discussions and/or propaganda more often than not. However, it rarely results in anything but my own frustration.
I’m not even remotely a conservative, I’m just a liberal (because that term gets thrown around way too much: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberalism).
I’m moving in your direction … but sometimes it’s really hard to say nothing.
Try to, comments tend to ruin it
Yep, that’s pretty much my list as well.
im gonna filter out gaza now.
You can try to avoid politics all you want, it won’t avoid you.
I only avoid discussions with the hardcore leftist anarchist/communist groups because there is a big overlap between those communities and absolutely brain dead moderation policies.
Comments that have been removed/gotten me temp banned from Lemmygrad and .Ml include:
“millions of people died under Stalins rule”(banned, “misinfo”)
Someone commented “nuke Texas” I said something to the effect of “yes blow up the 49% of Democratic voters” -comment removed, comment calling to nuke Texas left up
Having comments edited by bots and mods so you don’t hurt anyone’s fee fees
There are other examples if I go through the mod log. Lemmy.Ml in particular takes an absolutely wild amount of mod/admin actions compared to any instance.
Tl;Dr: yes but not because of politics, because Lemmy leftists are the fucking worst
Is that even possible?
I would think.
I filter out a few keywords so I don’t get inundated with politics but can still get a little news in my feed. Just enough articles slip past the keywords to keep a good balance.
I never comment in political threads.
I hate politics because it’s always the same argument; one side believes that humans are people and deserve to have rights, and the other doesn’t. The fact there is even an argument over this shit at all makes me want to just blow this entire planet to fucking pieces.
No, I don’t avoid it. I love to discuss with my fellow impassioned Lemmy users be it politics or any other topic and I don’t mind being heavily downvoted once in a while.
oh 100% i avoid it completely. i advocate for things in my own space and my own community. I’m not wasting my time talking about this shit online with any of you. i already know what im doing in november and i know what i gotta do in my local community and i dont give a flying fuck what anyone on here has to say about any of it. aint trying to change a bunch of random stranger’s minds (especially when i know we already pretty much agree on all the shit im already going to be doing)
and instead of policing my communities to attempt to help create a politically tasteful environment for myself, id rather just … fucking avoid completely any political environment. problem solved, life easy
PS if you block ads, you should block most news
It makes sense to temporarily avoid politics to stay sane, compartmentalization. To completely avoid politics I don’t see how one is not either very low intelligence to not realize their apathy harms people, or is smarter and aware their apathy harms others and is ok with it. Either dumb or bad.
I try sometimes but as you can tell by my history, I often fail. I need people to populate the other communities more, though, so I can avoid politics lol. Find other communities and comment or post, try different sorts, like scaled or new, instead of just Top or Active.
This is my dilemma too! Most of the threads in my instance are politics.
It doesn’t help that I’m actually quite interested in politics.
I just don’t like discussing them online because of the minority of people can’t remain civil.
