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Utilitarian brainworms or one of the many very real instances of a homicidal parent going after their disabled child? I can’t decide, but it’s a depressing read.

May end up on SRD, but you read it here first.

  • Shitgenstein1@awful.systemsEnglish
    2·
    11 months ago

    Imagine that you are a parent, and your child has the misfortune of developing chronic depression at a young age. Their depression resists all forms of treatment, and they live in near constant pain.

    Mom and Dad breaking out the potassium chloride when you listen to too much Elliott Smith and refuse to smile for the family Christmas photo.

  • maol@awful.systemsEnglish
    2·
    1 year ago

    What is it about Reddit and this specific scenario? I’ve seen people talk about how the brutal truth is that disabled children are bad over and over again. If you challenge this, you’re naive and possibly offensive. It’s one of Reddit’s weird fixations (see also: father’s rights).

      • Soyweiser@awful.systemsEnglish
        1·
        1 year ago

        This mensa person is also quite the idiot, thinks nazis are a race and has quite some opinions about racism (and joined the foreign legion). Check the submitted post history.

    • Evinceo@awful.systemsOPEnglish
      1·
      1 year ago

      It’s an alarmingly common occurrence in real life, so I don’t think it should be surprising that it’s also something people fantasize about.

    • swlabr@awful.systemsEnglish
      1·
      1 year ago

      I think in a cultural landscape where we’ve been fed fascist male power fantasies for so long, it’s only natural that we’ve got a bunch of people who think it’s cool and good to be “brutal” and able to make “hard choices” and “doing what’s necessary” etc. That and reddit has historically always been besieged by fascist troll farms.

      • self@awful.systemsMEnglish
        1·
        1 year ago

        That and reddit has historically always been besieged by fascist troll farms.

        oh absolutely, and it’s very funny when they try their typical bullshit here and on mastodon and it doesn’t work as they expect (at least for now — I’ve seen various attempts from these assholes to adjust their methods to work better on the fediverse)

      • Amoeba_Girl@awful.systemsEnglish
        2·
        1 year ago

        i’m not

        edit: i mean, to be less pithy; in the vast majority of these cases, “choice” is an illusion, there is intense pressure directed at the disabled and there is nothing to be glad about when you see a society offer death before they offer genuine help and accommodation. and i don’t even want to contemplate the particular politics of this one.

        • sc_griffith@awful.systemsEnglish
          1·
          1 year ago

          yeah, the pithyness about your preference having had control over my life is not really appreciated. I understand your point of view tho

  • swlabr@awful.systemsEnglish
    2·
    1 year ago

    “Today I will display my mastery of LOGIC and PERSUASION by contriving a scenario in which one simply MUST mercy kill their adult progeny. The masses will PROSTRATE themselves before me in ADORATION. They will learn to REVERE and FEAR the magnitude of my brain.”

    is definitely a normal one for an ssc user.

  • Soyweiser@awful.systemsEnglish
    2·
    1 year ago

    A post in the style of ‘we should allow the Chatgpt say slurs else it will cause nuclear armageddon’ there the premise ‘slurs/justified murder of people I dislike’ is picked first and then people rationalize back to support that argument no matter how dumb and horrible their thinking actually becomes. Discussing with somebody like this is imho useless as they just think they should be allowed to ‘say slurs’/‘murder people’.

  • Amoeba_Girl@awful.systemsEnglish
    2·
    1 year ago

    If we see a child with no legs, we conclude they will never run(with the obvious objections out of the way). We should then be able to similarly imagine a mind that will never have the courage to kill themselves, or only after they have needlessly suffered for decades.

    What the fuck are you talking about you inane little hitler

      • self@awful.systemsMEnglish
        2·
        11 months ago

        actually fuck it I want to revisit this: these people have convinced themselves thinking machines are right around the corner, and are simultaneously able to twist their brains into knots imagining a reality in which we don’t currently have advanced assistive devices and prosthetics that are constantly getting better?

        like, I know there’s some bullshit gotcha “well you see, then the prosthetic’s running, not them” lurking here, and god damn would that be a fucking stance for the brain uploading any day now crowd to pull directly out of their ass

    • self@awful.systemsMEnglish
      2·
      1 year ago

      this response is almost definitely going to pop into my head the next time I unfortunately read Reddit posts

      speaking of inane little hitlers, Reddit drug understander nootropic_expert (of course) sees nothing wrong with dosing kids without their consent:

      As i’m antinatalist l wouldn’t have a kid but lets try to answer that hypothetical Q.

      So I would support my kid in funding whatever would sooth his existence. In 2023 I would try psychedelics and even chronic opioid usage if psychs wouldn’t help.

      dear reddit, as an antinatalist, [worst opinion you’ve ever seen omitted for brevity]

  • elmtonic@lemmy.worldEnglish
    1·
    1 year ago

    For the purposes of this argument, near term AGI or promising clinical trials for depression are off the table.

    FOX ONLY. FINAL DESTINATION. NO ITEMS ROBOT GODS.