• EchoCT@lemmy.ml
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    10 months ago

    I’ve spent my whole voting life watching things only get shittier and shittier voting for the lesser evil. I stand by my claim that we deserve to collapse as a nation at this point.

    You’ll tell me thats a crap attitude, and it is. But I will tell you that no matter how you vote, the tipping point where it breaks into unsalvageable violence is getting closer and you better be ready for it. History shows us it always ends in violence when an empire hits this stage.

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      10 months ago

      How is Biden worse than Trump? If anything trump was even more pro-Israel.

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        10 months ago

        Some people out there see him as the anti-war candidate since he didn’t start any new wars in his first term. The bar is so pathetically low on candidates and warmongering

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          But they said voting for the lesser evil has only made things worse. Isn’t Biden an improvement?

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            10 months ago

            Lesser Evil, Greater Evil, all still evil.

            It’s like saying it’s okay to take one step back because it could’ve been two.

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              I’m just having trouble understanding how it’s a step back. Isn’t it a step forward from where we were?

              Like we got public infrastructure investments, money for renewable energy, funding for high speed rail. We wouldn’t have any of those things if trump had won another term. It seems more like a little geriatric step forward than a step back.

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      10 months ago

      Drink a little piss, or eat a LOT of shit. Take your pick, because doing nothing doesn’t entitle you to skip this buffet.

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        10 months ago

        Tell me you’re in your teens or early 20s without actually saying it.

        Begging for the beneficence of someone who has spent the last 6 decades pissing on us and being happy it’s not worse is pathetic.

        Don’t worry. I’ll “vote blue” like a good boy. But we rot as a country either way. It changes nothing except how long before the tipping point.

        That’s not to say we can’t save our communities. Look inward. Local mutual aid and organization is going to mean more than ever. Just don’t expect help from the corporate parties.

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          10 months ago

          ROFL. I’m 51.

          And I’ve lived long enough to know that we live within the grey area that exists between the polarized black and white everyone wants to see nowadays. I’ve also lived long enough to learn there’s nuance to EVERYTHING. And stubbornly crying about how an elected official’s stance on policies abroad is wrong- while ignoring the bigger picture at home- is a potentially catastrophic and downright dangerously ignorant line of thinking.

          But you do you.

          Were can be done with this discussion now. The fact that you’ve made knee-jerk assumptions without knowing a single thing about me speaks volumes on how much of a waste of time this discussion has been, and will be.

          Enjoy your evening and move along.

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            There really isn’t much nuance or gray area when it comes to genocide.

            The United States’ Biden Administration is currently funding and supporting a genocide in Gaza. That is unforgivable.

            Trump would be even worse than Biden. But there are enough people in Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and Arizona who are going to be turned off by this (and by inflation, etc) that it won’t matter.

            The Democratic Party is fully to blame for this result, no American voter is culpable for what happens in November.

            The 2024 election should be a slam dunk for any Non-Republican Party. The Democrats’ political incompetence is solely to blame for any loss - and that incompetence is reaching a point where it is hard to believe that they are accidentally this stupid. All of this is going to support the “Monoparty” and other conspiracy theories, which are looking less and less like mere theories

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              Genocide from Trump comes with an extra helping of military enforced dictatorship and corruption, with a side order of LGBTQ+ oppression and racism…

              But don’t let this get in the way of your bOtH siDeS’ism.

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                That isn’t a convincing argument. It also isn’t even responsive to what I said.

                If you’re trying to persuade people then that argument won’t do it