This is literally Chris Chan’s account isn’t it? That racist, sexist, autistic, predatory, mentally ill, trans, mother fucking lolcow.
I genuienly thought they were not allowed to use the internet anymore.
Like literally. After they went to jail.
No ban that I know of. Also was never convicted of a crime even though they spent time in jail. The lawyer was able to get the charges dismissed through some kind of I have autism defense (I swear). So I’m not sure that there is any way to enforce a ban since they were not convicted. Definitely should have been given some type of internet limitations and or more consequences IMO.
Fuck.
Yeah I … don’t exactly follow them closely, I just saw a spate of … ahem, mother fucking videos a while back, and was just … shaking my head…
Goddamn it, what a terrible, wasted life.
Correct
Lumping in trans people with racist/sexist/predatory/mentally ill people, are we?
No this bad person happens to be trans or at least claim to be.
I used several of their many descriptors, you zeroed in on that one. All of the labels I listed apply to this individual. Being trans in particular is a huge part of their personality and expression online. So its relevant and appropriate to include. If you choose to interpret that in the way you seem to be, you’re wrong and really trying hard to find a way to be offended. If you want to champion/defend trans people thats noble and I believe you should. However this person isn’t the particular hill you want to die on trying to defend.
You chose to list “trans” and “autistic” in the middle of a list of abhorrent behaviors/traits about Chris. Get real.
Leaving things borderline unambiguous like this is how transphobes speak. If you’re not, I don’t recommend mirroring them. 🤷🏼♀️
You can choose the impact of the statement, I know it’s intent. As would any reasonable person who is familiar with this individual. You’re defending a person who uses those labels as a defense for predatory behavior. They RAPED their own mother and successfully used autism as a defense in court to get the charges dropped. They also have a very shaky history as to why they identify as trans (believing lesbians would be more accepting and they’d have an easier time finding a girlfriend, as well as an easier way to deflect hate). I do believe they are probably genuinly trans but it murky and absolutely 100% part of the story as is autism.
I’m not defending Chris. I’m pointing at transphobic commentary. Get over yourself.
Leaving things borderline unambiguous like this is how transphobes speak. If you’re not, I don’t recommend mirroring them.
You’re ignoring context and nuance as a way to be offended. You’re the one that needs to get over yourself lmfao.
The context being? A. The person is behaving in an abhorrent way B. The person is identifying as trans C. A & B
Which is it?
Funny when a person acts badly, some people always have to bring up additional labels.
They’re bad, and gay. They’re bad, and a Jew. They’re bad, and a muslim. Etc.
You are just showing your own bigotry. Lmfao.
And I wouldn’t recommend defending Chris chan who is a horrid person who uses their labels to attack others and to hide from repercussions.
It makes you look like a biggot.
If you think identifying transphobia is to defend Chris, you’re the problem.
Nobody is defending Chris from what I’ve seen.
They’re merely pointing out that including “trans” in the list of negative traits about Chris makes OP appear transphobic.
Hmmm, you’re presenting as autophobic, this is problematic.
You just couldn’t type that trait out, could you? Too afraid of autism. Sad.
You also excluded “mentally ill” from your list… as if it was not worth a mention. Dementophobia
Well, I guess I deserve that one. :-)
I focused on trying to calmly explain the problem of lumping negative traits together with other traits, and failed to list all of them. I guess I thought it would be apparent for the readers, but that’s on me.
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There’s nothing stopping gay, trans or other minorities from also being awful shit people who deserve to rot in jail.
Hell there’s even this fun concept where people weaponize the fact they are in a minority group as a way to attack others or to try to protect themselves from retaliation for horrid acts they do.
Chris chan is in fact a racist sexist predatory mentally ill trans person.
Are you unaware of who Chris Chan is?
We all do. Listing “trans” and “autistic” in the middle of a list of abhorrent traits/behaviors they have/committed is a blatant indicator of transphobia regardless of who we’re talking about.
Your just coming across as morally the equivalent of a Nazi defender, because they are trans they can’t also be a racist, sexist Nazi? Who is a horrid person and should be banned from the internet and likely locked in a jail cell?
They are saying that they dislike that the Nazi being trans/autistic is being mentioned at all, it’s not relevant to their “being horrible”-ness even if those labels technically apply, so since the list of things they are described by has so many horrible things,it seems to imply that those are the things by which they should be hated for,not just generic descriptive labels, which is why seeing those two specific non horribleness defining traits stand out. I don’t really care but just trying to clarify. ILYSM
It’s relevant if its been used successfully in a court of law to defend a rape they commited. Or the individual in question has used being trans to excuse non consensual sexual deviance. This is a discussion about an individual not a group. Nuance and context are important.Also, don’t you think this individual would want at least those two labels applied to them? Wouldn’t including them be respectful of their wishes/identity? If expressing this text makes you think I’m a hateful transphobe you should definitely block me.
As I said, I don’t really care since they’re quite the POS and this is not a court of law. I just wanted to give extra context to give proper framing to the point that I felt the other commenter didn’t properly drive through. If you still disagree, fine by me, no need to be so combative <3
Couldn’t have said it better myself. @Return_of_Chippy@lemmy.world
Thanks :3
No, you were pretty clear in what you said. Not sure why people upvoted that explanation instead of yours.
Taking all the misgendering here into account too, this shit is like calling Jesse Lee Peterson the N-word and defending oneself by saying that because he is a horrible person it’s okay to do so.
Where is the defence in that comment? They are just saying being trans is not relevant at all.
That’s not what they said.
It’s relevant if its been used successfully in a court of law to defend a rape they commited. Or the individual in question has used being trans to excuse non consensual sexual deviance. This is a discussion about an individual not a group. Nuance and context are important. Also, don’t you think this individual would want at least those two labels applied to them? Wouldn’t including them be respectful of their wishes/identity? If expressing this text makes you think I’m a hateful transphobe you should definitely block me.
Cope harder, transphobe.
If you’re gonna do it and defend it, grow a pair and own up to it. 😒
You give anyone applying that label with genuine cause a bad name and weaken its meaning.
Genuinely lump trans people in with rapists (etc.) for the cause of hating them all you want. Just grow a pair and own it, dude.
Will you admit that you’re dementophobic?
Apologize now.
Why did you fail to mention “mentally ill?”
Extreme dementophobia, please get help.
Lol
Even when treated exactly the same as everybody else, it’s not good enough for you.
Let’s put her on a throne and crown her, shall we? She can be your queen
“Is this Hitler? That genocidal, racist, male, sexist, eugenicists, child murderer?”
Lol
A wild cocktail of personality disorders, is what they are. My god, the small amount I know about Chris Chan is already too much.
Out of the loop, is it okay to make fun of Chris Chan now? Last I remembered it was a bunch of 4chan assholes bullying them for being autistic and trans.
It’s always been okay, they’re a terrible person
They sexually assaulted their mother and have always been openly racist among a bunch of other fucked up shit… It’s always been okay.
Everyone involved sucks, best not to get involved.
Don’t touch the poop
Chris Chan is an interesting “Frankenstein’s Monster” case. In Frankenstein, the monster is regularly treated like a monster by everyone they encounter. So eventually, he basically decides “if I’m going to be treated like a monster regardless, I might as well give them a reason to fear me.” The monster begins acting like one… By the end of the book, the monster has done plenty of monstrous things. But it didn’t start out that way…
And Chris Chan’s case has a lot of parallels to that. Maybe she didn’t initially deserve the bullying. She’s always been weird, but it’s entirely possible that her life would have been on a different trajectory without the constant harassment. However, by the time the Chris Chan stuff was really coming to a head around 2020-2021, she was a full blown racist, misogynistic, homophobic, sexual predator piece of shit. Her potential life is an interesting hypothetical “Nature vs Nurture” thought experiment. But as it currently stands, Chris doesn’t deserve a platform.
Making fun of her is fine, just do it for the right reasons. She’s a bad person who happens to be autistic and trans. She’s not a bad person because she is autistic and trans.
ehh, Chris Chan had rape fantasies before they started interacting with 4chan or kiwifarms.
Fredrik Knudsen covered them back in 2016.
I honestly think Fred’s coverage of Chris and other lolcows gave some people who would later become internet celebrities a wake up call on what not to become. He’s honestly the only person I trust to cover these types that’s willing to do it.
I was under the impression it was always ethical to make fun of Chris chan
Make jokes, but do not interact with them.
You can always make fun of a horribleneprson as long as you don’t capitulate on the things that don’t make them horrible, which is what probably those 4chan assholes were doing. Nah he’s a shitbag AND he’s autistic and trans. Not because.
ehh, the unaddressed autism is definitely a factor. They should have been taken offline or at least, not allowed have an email or social media and been forced into therapy. They had rape fantasies before they started interacting with trolls. They were always a ticking time bomb.
I watch a lot of true crime and didn’t know who that was until I came across their arrest video. One of the weirdest things I’ve seen.
You ever see someone try to explain to a cop that they’re interdemenionally married to Sonichu?
I’ve consumed many hours of lolcow content. Chris Chan was the first. Horrific strange human. There are many more like him, some even worse.
Non-zero chance it’s an elon alt
Every account on X is an Elon alt
Wait… you mean the nazi bar has nazis‽ whoda thunk
Tbf, they did get Russia epic wrong
In Stalingrad.
So they used to think they were a moderate to now understanding they’re ideologically aligned with nazis? Just not Russian nazis?
Pretty sure they only saw the word socialism there.
I hate Russian Nazis. I also hate snakes.
Sometimes I think I’m not caught up with all the new lingo. Then I see someone use the phrase “epic wrong” in the year 2026 and I feel a little bit better.
Also, fuck these idiots.
That’s not new lingo, Chris Chan is a literally insane “internet famous” bad person. The person asking him about national socialism is a troll.
100% right. The most documented human ever to exist in history!
Guess where /pol went
Sometimes I wonder if the dude who was operating that animatronic bear ever learned the butterfly effect impact of him getting some weird sonic obsessed kid’s name wrong in 1992
Hold on, animatronic bear?
Leonard Bearstein Symphony Orchestra. That is all you get from me. Chris Chan is a cognitohazard and I refuse to directly link you directly to the cwcki.
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