Pretty bad editorialising of the headline there, OP. That’s really not what the study showed. It was more nuanced than that.
Ah, I’m seeing “ Study suggest men refuse to ditch meat because it threatens their masculinity”
My apologies, when I read the article originally, it had a very different headline.
Edit Original headline I saw was: "New study finds that masculine language, reshapes men’s perspectives on vegan dishes "
Or it is that seasoned chared flesh is really tasty. One of those two.
It seems to be an EU-based study. The design part of the paper doesn’t say which nationalities were studied, although maybe they mention it elsewhere in the document. I’d be interested in this because it’s very much a cultural thing. There are part of the world where vegetarian food is the norm for both men and women.
The article at least says “The researchers conducted an online experiment with 593 participants in Germany” so it’s probably primarily Germans?
It’s from australia
Where else is vegetarian food the ‘norm’?
Africa … check the rates of heart disease and intestinal problems in most African nations compared to the US and Canada. They may suffer from all kinds of other preventable diseases, malnutrition and violent conflict … but they don’t suffer from over indulgence.
I’d eat dog food if it hit my macros and tasted ok. My food choices don’t dictate how masculine I feel.
I’ve discovered TVP recently. Very cheap and dense source of protein. My partner likes to joke that I’m eating dog food, and I’m starting to think that she might be right considering that dog food keeps coming up when I search for TVP.
No its because it tastes good.
Sauces, marinades, vegtable broth and spices taste good.
And I didn’t plan on stopping eating those either
These studies are made through a lens of “men have frail egos, how else can we frame this viewpoint”.
I don’t give a fuck about “masculinity” or “femininity”. If it’s cheap, tastes good, and isn’t full of EEEEEEs, I’ll buy it. Standard “aubergine”, tomatoes, spring onions and whatever aren’t tasty without a whole lot of prep. Fuck salads. Give me that cheap, spicy, Indian sauce that I can lather onto sweet potato purree, carrot pasta, and pickled mango… and it costs less than a dish with a fucking steak? Hell yeah I’m buying it! Steak will be what I eat when I go out.
Make another study focusing on pricing and how much money you can save per year eating veggie and I bet my ass it’ll have an impact. These stupid “my gender is better than your gender” bullshit doesn’t help.
They aren’t peer reviewed and basically dont count as studies in a science way.
Most modern social “science” papers are just “people I agree with are actually just superior people, and everyone I disagree with is stupid and dumb”, with the most blatant statistics fuckery on earth
And so is heart disease. Nothing more masculine as dropping from a clogged heart.
It threatens my options. I don’t believe it’s healthy to rule out 95% of the world’s food options, and that’s the only reason I keep eating meat. If I knew there was great veg food everywhere, it would be easily done and I’d prefer to at least make meat a 3 times a year thing or less.
Edit: I’m really fucking curious. Can someone tell me what there is to downvote here? Are you truly threatened by the idea of not eating meat or what could it possibly be?
can anyone tell me what there is to downvote
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meat isn’t “95% of the world’s food options”
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there is great veg food all over the place, failure to find is a failure to look
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you’re framing the choice as to whether to eat meat as some externally imposed thing when it’s simply not. Choosing from among your options doesn’t ‘threaten’ the options you didn’t choose
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your tone is just generally gross and defensive
I’m an omnivore too, but your arguments sound less like you considered the possibilities, rationally thought your way through to the best option then selected it, and more like you picked something and then tried to rationalize your way backward through the arguments to the options.
Edit: oooooh nothing like asking for feedback and then getting pissy when you get it.
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I find it interesting how most of those “studies” take a very shallow approach with main premise: how to perrle vegetarian/vegan lifestyle. I have no problem with folks eating whatever the heck they like, but stop peddling me your preferences based on pseudo-science. I’ve been eating “clean” for over a decade now amd I can say with certainty that vegetarian/vegan diet will near damn kill me at best it’ll cripple me: sensitive to gluten, sugar and nuts, baloon from carbs. Not dealing great with soy etc. Any in-store “vegan” choices nutrutionally inferior to non-vegan as it stands (I do not say they are inheritently so but that the current fact). Industry is busy using adversarial politics pushing more addictive and harmful stuff onto our collective plates and we say nothing.
There’s not such thing as “universal dietary profile”. I.e. we need our choices across entire spectrum. Some of us can’t tolerate certain foods, and that’s not the reason to vilify or victimize.
