Red Bull - European but Far right

Buy European but … Also with ethical considerations.

Red Bull might sound cool, but they have their own TV station in Austria. (servus TV) And that station js beyond far right. Spreading disinformation, and Russian propaganda, Corona Bullshi, Ivermectint, cleaning stuff with chlorid, climate change deniers, … If there is a conspiracy they support it …

(And it’s also not very healthy,…)

  • Bosht@lemmy.world
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    Wait really? I live in the US granted but I don’t want to support any company that does heinous shit like this.

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    Icl, ik this is slightly irrelevant to the post but even though I never really liked Red Bull (mostly cuz of their highly processed and unnatural taste) I’ve always rated and supported their stunts and funding of athletes, which I think regardless of their political views should be acknowledged and supported.

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    Holy shit what is up with the reddit mods? I posted a screenshot of a Mastodon post there yesterday, that basically said if youre switching us big tech for eu big tech you’re not doing enough and that we have to support decentralized tech. Deleted in 5 minutes because it “posts should be relevant to european made products”

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    10 to 15 years back when I still watched tv, I loved Servus TV: news, lots of documentaries, reports and some panel shows. Like, TV before enshittification. Absolutely nothing even remotely close to what this post is suggesting. Has it gone down since then, or is this post misinformation? Can anybody who’s still watching TV confirm this?

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    They also support Israel’s apartheid and occupation, they are listed on the NoThanks app.

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        But isn’t that all energy drinks? Not that I have any clue, the only times I ever drank them was when I was 17 and they were mixed with vodka.

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          The ol’ heart exploder cocktail.

          Idk honestly but I have read this factoid specifically about red bull several times on the Internet so it must be true (/s)

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    DON’T. LET. PERFECT. BE. THE. ENEMY. OF. GOOD

    It’s still European, even though not ideal. Let’s leave US companies first, then curate EU companies

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      I think you might want to make an exception for far-right loonies, as a far-right loony getting into power is what started this whole shitstorm.

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      Servus TV is a TV station based in Wals-Siezenheim in the Austrian state of Salzburgand owned by Red Bull Media House GmbH, a subsidiary of Red Bull GmbH, which also publishes the magazine Servus in Stadt und Land. The station is the successor to Salzburg TV, founded in 1995 and rebranded in 2009. It is politically aligned with the far right.

      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/ServusTV

      C’mon you have the fucking Internet, you can just search this shit yourself if you want more information.

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        It’s normal to expect from OP to provide source for their claim.

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            Lets say 5000 people see this post - should it be normal and expected that 5000 people spend their time hunting down a source to a claim, or have a single OP include it in their post?

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            They asked for more information about a topic in which they were interested, on a forum designed to spread information. I don’t think you can reasonably fault the person asking for more information of being lazy, when the OP could be considered equally lazy for not including the context in the first place, right?

            Either way you’re right, being able to look things up is a good skill to have! But maybe don’t be a jerk about it, we left reddit for a reason, right? ;)

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              Welcome to the spot, you’re absolutely right and the world could use more people that think like you.

              For real, keep being you at all costs, you’re awesome.

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            No one said they’re unable to research, asking for a source is normal imo. Supporting claims with sources in the first place would be better, the internet is overrun by fake news and lies. Most don’t take the time to research everything they see online. It’s simply a big researchers team’s full time job to research everything you see scrolling 10 minutes on any platform. So when stating a claim or posting a story, you should support it with sources or otherwise you should be asked to do so.

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            Why would you assume they aren’t able? They just said they’d like more information, not that they can’t go get it themselves…

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        Damn, “Servus in Stadt und Land” doesn’t even need a translation to realize how racist it is.

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          Servus literally means “Hello” in many German dialects, especially in Austria:

          Servus, and various local variants thereof, is a salutation used in many parts of Central and Eastern Europe. It is a word of greeting or parting like the Italian ciao (which also comes from the slave meaning through Venetian s’ciavo).

          Also, it is used precisely because most people were servants a dozen or more centuries ago.

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          Maybe next time use a translator just in case before commenting mate. Servus is the name of the TV station, “in city and country” is very hard for me, impossible really, to find anything racist in it.

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      I think the buy EU thing (and for that matter, all this trade war bullshit) is one of those things that claims to be apolitical but is inherently nationalistic and so massively popular with/supported by/in support of the authoritarian right.

      One of those salt of saturn political things that lets people pretend they aren’t right-wing.

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        You can’t take things out of context. There’s currently a far right US presidents creating an economical war with the historical allies and economical partners of his country. The point of boycotting is to try to prove him wrong about thinking that he can impose his wishes by force, the target is him and his government, not the US people in general. There’s also the hope that weakening him could allow a political change next term, which would make things better for our American friends. Of course it is political, but it’s against Trump, not the people.

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        we shouldn’t dismiss the movement as a whole just because some rightwingers are a part of it, but our choices with regard to consumption should be more nuanced than America bad, Europe good.

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          True. If the movement was called boycott facists, or even buy local I don’t think there would be the same problem.

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          The point is that fascism is not unique to the US, i.e. not everyone from the US is fascist and the EU also has fascists. To imply that universally EU=good and US=bad is nationalistic. Just be aware thay this sentiment may also attract people who join out of a sense of national pride rather than anti-fascism.

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            The US is lead by a fascist and a fascist party. Most of the EU isn’t. I also don’t buy stuff from Italy for the same reason.

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          Exactly what I am talking about. Plenty of facists in the EU, plenty of non-facists outside the EU. Make your decision based on the politics of the people you are buying from, not what flag they wrap around themselves.

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      By right wing, do you mean right of Marxism or do you have some example of conservatism?

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    I think people don’t realize Red Bull is not a beverage company, they’re a marketing company. Just like Google is an ad company

    Anyway, the main message of this post is actually really important. Buying European is not what you have to aim for. We have to start making the switch to sustainable consumption. For softwares, plenty of open-source alternatives exist that are way better than European ones. The US do not have the monopoly on fascist capitalism

  • 𝔗𝔢𝔯 𝔐𝔞𝔵𝔦𝔪𝔞@jlai.lu
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    I’m in the supermarket right this moment and I got a “No Limit”. The website seems to suggest it’s either French or Swiss, I have no clear idea of their politics though.

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    I hade no idea about this! I buy these drinks occasionally, when I need a quick energy boost. I don’t really like them though. In the future, I will be buying Nocco instead.

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    Nothing in Redbull is good for you, it’s full of sugar, and it comes in a can. Cans are lined with plastic that bleed estrogenic chemicals into the beverage. I’ve cut canned drinks out of my life entirely.

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      Studies show that there are around 10-20 microplastic particles per liter in canned beverages. Carbonated sodas contain more (6-82), possibly due to the carbonation breaking down the lining in the can.

      For comparison:

      So if you’re going to avoid anything, avoid… tea bags, of all things.

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      Cans are lined with plastic that bleed estrogenic chemicals into the beverage

      I did some quick looking through google Ecosia and I found some stuff that (seemingly? I’m not an expert) confirms this. It made sweeping statements about pretty much all plastic, though. Do you still drink stuff from plastic bottles?

      This sounds like a snide comment but it’s not, I’m interested because I currently still drink both from cans and plastic bottles!

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        I mean, that’s just plastic in general, it’s also why you shouldn’t reheat food in plastic containers because it can leach chemicals out of it.

        Completely baseless assumption, but if there’s enough chemicals leaching from the containers into your food, you’d be able to taste it and wouldn’t be ingesting it to begin with.

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          There’s plenty of chemicals that either don’t have a taste, or are harmful at concentrations we aren’t able to detect by taste. I’m not saying they’re in plastic necessarily, but they definitely exist.

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        If you’re going to drink from a plastic bottle anyway I don’t think the plastic lining on a can is going to be worse. Interesting it’s there though, only learned about it a couple years ago.