This is all I need to never even look at a Jeep… how pathetic can these idiots get?
This, exactly this. The fact that they would even consider this rules them out for me forever.
I already had dozens of reasons to never buy a Jeep. This is just the cherry on a shitty cake.
Old cars are gonna be so expensive.
Drivers don’t need to be watching the road, they need to be watching this ad.
It’s a static ad, not a video. I agree with your sentiment though!
Still! A screen changing is still something that grabs your attention.
I completely crossed off all GM cars due to lack of CarPlay. I am boycotting Tesla. I don’t trust BMW because they tried to make heated seats a subscription. Now Jeep and Stellantis?
Japanese manufacturers are not perfect but seem to be the least interested in doing this kind of anti-consumer nonsense, at least for now. I have been happy with every Mazda I’ve owned in the last decade (3 in total) for what it’s worth.
Yup, Toyota has been solid for me. Though admittedly, they’re also one of the worst in regards to data privacy; You should assume that every single thing you do in a Toyota is being recorded and sent back to a Toyota server for ad/tracking purposes.
Lol what? Ur car got internet?
Just pull the OnStar /gps fuseMost cars have a SIM card with a very basic data/phone service. In many jurisdictions, it’s a legal requirement for cars to have a button to call emergency services, so they need phone connectivity for that. It’s also used for software updates, map updates, and of course, data collection.
I just wish Mazda had a good EV. Their EVs just aren’t that good at the moment. I leased a BMW iX a few months ago, but my old car (which I still have) is a 2012 Mazda 3. Love the EV experience and I don’t think I’ll buy a gas powered car ever again.
I’m on year 9 of my 10 year car plan. Current vehicle is supposed to become the kidmobile and I planned on a new one.
I won’t buy a new car though. If I do replace mine, it will be a used, unconnected car. I am so tired of iPads on wheels.
my 2008 BMW is the last without a computer screen and none of that stupid knob and I had to seek it out but it was absolutely worth it. Bonus that I can actually work on the car my self!
I think cars peaked ca. 2010. Anything added after that are annoyances or things being taken away.
If I could get a brand new facelift E90, that would probably be my next car.
Toyotas are still good
Toyota Sales here Boy do I have some BMW Heated seat subscription crap to sell you
(Its not quite as bad as BMW. But one thing that really irks customers is the remote starter is restricted to a subscription service. unless you’re one of the lucky ones who got a vehicle that installed the wrong part/fuses. in which case you can still remote start your car with the fob. its still very finnicky)
Yeah that remote start subscription really pissed me off. If i could confirm a way to give them even less data i would.
I am still awaiting my first map update to my nav system that has free lifetime map updates, my truck will be 10 this year.
Mercedes also includes a number of items as a subscription in some countries. Some stuff is app related. Others are things like getting full use of your rear-steering wheels and unlocking extra horsepower.
To be honest, I would just get an old car and fit a tablet into it
This only applies to GM EVs. Friend has a 2025 ICE Chevy which has both AA and CarPlay. Still dumb that the EVs don’t have it though.
Something to consider…
Elon may be going down a conservative rabbit hole these days, but this is the sort of thing Tesla would never ever ever do. And things like using the telematic system to sell your location and speed to insurance companies. Never happened on a Tesla. You may not like the guy, but the cars are fucking solid.
Tesla’s have their own privacy issues, and build quality issues . Tesla’s staff have been caught spying on their customers and sharing sensitive images of people .
Doesn’t Tesla lock larger battery capacity begging a paywall?
Rainbow road mode is a bitch
Tesla? You mean the Ford Pinto of EVs?? https://www.rawstory.com/cybertruck-2671127676/
Oh, he’s just going down a rabbit hole! He’s going on a cute little adventure where he does a fucking Nazi salute in front of the whole country, then proceeds to recklessly dismantle huge parts of the US government, but it’s all just part of his magical little journey! Teehee!
I thought this was the onion for a moment
Furthermore: Slashdot still exists? And it still has an active community in the comments!?
Lemmy alone hasn’t been enough to replace reddit for me; I should see if I still remember my old password…
Slashdot still has a good feed of articles. I never quit it 🤣
Yep it is slow but steady.
Fark is still around too.
Fark rules!
The site is still there, but the comment sections are no longer fun nor do you find intelligent feedback as frequently as you could in the early days. Last time I was poking around there, the mods were upvoting climate denial comments. So much for science. (source: low uid)
Cyberpunk 2077 here we come. except its just the Corpo shit.
Even 2077 didn’t have ads in your car.
How to get me to not buy a Jeep and to hate anyone pushing these ads (Mopar) in one simple act.
“Speed”, but instead of a vehicle exploding, it’s to avoid ads.
Officer, “Why’d you run that red light?”
Me, “If I hear the Meow Mix jingle one more time I’m gonna snap!”
Jeep, having heard you mention a product, dutifully plays the relevant ad.
Officer: Why were you speeding?
Me: Wanted to avoid ads.
This isn’t even funny… This is something people will do. Jeep doesn’t give a fuck about safety. FUCK Jeep.
Jeep isn’t a true company anymore it’s just another brand under Stellantis. So FUCK stellantis and every other brand under them.
I’ve known several Jeep owners over the last decade and those that weren’t buying it strictly for the ‘Jeep clout’ as an actual vehicle/daily driver had constant issues, while under warranty, and dealt with issues even trying to get said warranty work done. Like that wasn’t enough for me, on top of that I had a mechanic with his own shop that said he’d never touch another Jeep because of how horribly they are designed to work on. Anything from ease of access to work on the engine to bolts stripping out because they were overtorqued during assembly and made with shit metals that would sooner melt than come off in one piece. Now this? Yeah, hope they go bankrupt. This is just as bad as BMW and their ‘pay a subscription for seat warmers’ bullshit.
dodge in general did not do well on realiability, Thing is they have neat engineering. So I loved the grand caravan but they killed it to try and get folks to pay toyota prices for their shit and its like no. You vehicles have to be ten grand cheaper so that you amoratize the repair bills.
The dodge caravan was my teenage car. I loved it. Big. Ugly. No one wanted to drive with me and that was perfect because they also would have tried smoking in the car and I’d have broken out in hives. I miss you, dodge caravan.
You know, I’ve got to give their marketing team props for managing to sell a vehicle with the engineering quality of a Saturn to people with more money than sense for a whole ass order of magnitude more than it’s worth. Game recognizes game.
Yeah I’ve never heard anything good about jeeps in general. Now they are being run further into the ground by trying to become a luxury brand. At least when it was just a shitty jeep, it was still a somewhat cheap shitty jeep.
Absolutely fucking not.
Though it does sound like a good kicker for the after market systems to make a comeback.
Not a chance. The new ‘infotainment’ clusters integrate necessary features like climate control to prevent aftermarket replacements in most vehicles. I honestly don’t know if any manufacturers even use the single and double DIN standards anymore.
Mazda is supposedly one of the last major automakers that has mostly physical controls in their cars. Definitely at the top of my list for any future car purchases.
I highly recommend Mazda if this is something you care about. I had a 2016 Mazda 3, and now I have a 2022 Mazda 3. The infotainment is all controlled though a physical knob and buttons, the climate control is all physical buttons. I am not sure if the screen is even a touch screen… I don’t think it is, but I have never attempted to touch it since I was so used to using the physical knob system in my old 2016. The physical buttons are why I picked my current 3 turbo up over the WRX I also tested. The WRX and the other Subaru’s I checked out all annoyed me with forcing use of the touch screen snd buttons to change the climate settings. I hope Mazda never changes that aspect of their cars. Not sure if the other models also do this, but I don’t see why they would.
Also, the climate control is all on smaller screen that just displays info with the climate system. The infotainment has nothing to do with the climate controls.
My 2018 Chev Trax may be the perfect level of tech for my tastes. Climate stuff is all physical, but it has a nice screen that you can hook a phone to through a USB or Bluetooth to pass maps/audio/calls through it with the audio and calls being controllable by buttons on the wheel.
The only actual car operation buttons on the screen are things you wouldn’t do when driving anyhow like decide if it locks automatically or setting the default volume.
Most obnoxious thing it does is keep reminding me that the sat radio subscription is expired when I start it.
My 2023 Mazda has a touch screen but you never actually have to touch it. In fact, they put it far enough away that it is difficult to touch while driving and disable the touch when the car is moving. There are knobs and buttons in-between the front seats that control it. Also none of the important stuff is controlled through the infotainment system, it is just settings, satnav, and radio (or Android Auto/carplay). Not having to interact with a touch surface while driving is one of my favorite features of my car, and there are a lot of other things that I love about it too.
Part of me is annoyed that I didn’t get a Mazda 3 when I got my car back in 2023, I got a 2021 Seat Leon FR PHEV Hatchback.
I like the Leon, but it has so much touch controls.
The worst is the controls for the fog lights, heated rear window and defrost.
They are all located on a small touch panel to the right of the steering wheel, it is also angled down making it harder to see.
So if I am driving and the windows start to fog up I need to take my eyes off the road and aim my finger to touch the correct button without touching any other controls as I might be blinding other drivers.
It is a terrible design.
The AC and battery management screens are all under different submenus on the infotainment screen.
The rest of the car is great though, and so far i have not seen any ads on the screen.
Mazda has been flying under the radar doing things right for a long time, in my experience.
I’m currently driving a 2012 Mazda3 that we bought new 13 years ago. It has been completely reliable while our 2013 Honda has needed some repairs. It is fuel efficient (40mg hwy), and it is still fun to drive. In the automatic transmission’s manual-shift mode the shift lever goes in the correct direction for driving dynamics (pull back to upshift, forward to downshift). In the normal automatic drive mode it seems to use an accelerometer to downshift when braking downhill.
My very first car was a mazda MX-6 from the late 80s with a 5-speed manual transmission. I bought it with 180,000 miles as a cheap junk “first car” and drove it for another 40,000 miles over the next few years. It needed some repairs, of course, but it was fun to drive and did a great job getting me around the state while I was in the late college to early independent adult years.
Now I’m middle aged and my drive to work is just a few miles via quiet twisty country road. I think I’m gonna get an MX-5 Miata next. 6-speed and soft top. That sounds nice.
For years I thought a fast dual motor EV sport sedan would be my next vehicle (whatever the non-Tesla model 3 performance equivalent would be) but a roadster would probably make it more fun to get up and leave the house. Plus so much cheaper and, given the small amount of miles I drive, probably more environmentally friendly. It would definitely generate a lot less microplastic pollution form the weight difference alone.
Despite no longer sticking to the DIN standard, and climate controls being integrated into the infotainment system, there still exists a big market for aftermarket infotaiment systems, they just have to be engineered for the specific make of car you have. But they can be bought for most cars that have infotaiment systems that are now outdated
I haven’t replaced a head unit in years, but I’m not surprised the proprietary systems require custom components for replacement. I can’t count the amount of head units I’ve replaced with my own ‘custom’ wire harness to save the $15 it cost for the Metra adapter. Lol
The Chinese won’t be stopped by that. CANBUS integration controlled by a poorly designed app coming to your (2-3 versions old) Android head unit!
Custom flashes are probably more likely given the system integration of the head unit. UBlock for your car. How crazy is that?
This is just one of the many reasons I have no interest in new cars. If it needs an internet connection then I’m not buying it. There are very few things I need my vehicle to be able to do and having access to internet isn’t one of them. I don’t even like that my truck has automatic wipers - I vastly prefer the traditional ones. Hell, I don’t even need the radio.
Honestly, fuck the whole thing, I’ll take my bike. With blackjack. And hookers.
Honestly, fuck the the bike, it will save you from purchasing a hooker
But then who will I play blackjack with?
Disgusting. Why would anyone pay for that?
Just you wait until the windshields become screens as well. Full windshield ads baybe!
In USSR, despite all its downsides, there was a huge upside - magazines like “Техника - молодежи” and various educational brochures of the practical kind, aimed at explaining how to really make something.
And also a certain culture of hobbies associated with that, I guess all the energy from boredom went there.
So - I’ve read about competitions of hobby-crafted cars then. Like 20 guys would make some (like half of it would be something used in usual Soviet cars, think Reagan and the 10 years joke) parts of a car in their garages and apartments (and even at work, if they worked on some factory, for example ; in general workplace in USSR was, eh, a bit more permanent of an association, so the border between personal life and work, including tools, was fuzzy), then assemble them.
I think that could even be registered as a legal means of transportation. At least from what I’ve heard there is (or was) a surprisingly liberal part of Russian laws, allowing you to register almost anything as a car and get a number, with some criteria passed. Maybe these two things are related.
Easy, they call their cars something like renegade or maveric and some idiots pay 80k for that shitbox
I wanted a Jeep at some point. One of the nicer-looking models. A sand-yellow one, almost as good as a black g-wagon.
But yes, times change. I wanted one from the early 90s, maybe.
Sic transit gloria mundi.
Hey, you might want to team up with Sony…
DRINK VERIFICATION CAN!
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FTFY
Wasnt there also something about showing ads while your show is paused now too?
I’m ready to go back to kodi.
Happens on Prime now
Depending on how long you were gone, don’t get real debrid btw.
What happened to real-debrid?
Is this real?? Do you have the source?
I’m lost for words.
…what if the whole family is watching? Does everyone have to raise their hands and yell “McDonalds”? Including the kids?
This might just as well be used in “smart” fridges. “Do this corporate dance to get 20% off your next Corn Flakes”
There’s just no way I’m ever going to do this.
Honestly, I’d rather go forage for twigs and berries than interact with ads.
I haven’t seen an ad in like 15 years or so (at home) and i already find them incredibly dystopian and weird. I don’t really understand how people put up with that right now, but it kind of tells me that they would actually do the laola wave and yell pepsi at their screen. I found my old VHS collection the other day and watched karate kid that i recorded as a child. I think it had 2 ad breaks who were really short, and back then we thought that it’s getting a bit much with the ads.
Here you go
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/sony-patent-mcdonalds/
Edit: I didn’t see the other comment, oops
Something something stallmanwasright.
Jeep is a Stellantis product. Literally the worst quality auto manufacturer in North America. They are circling the drain and jacking up the prices on their vehicles and making Pikachu faces when they don’t sell. Their only customers are people who don’t know how to research their purchases, and putting advertisement hell into their cars is another example of that. I suspect they will not be in business a decade from now.
I work in the auto industry. Can confirm, Stellantis is in bad shape. I wouldn’t buy anything from them.
What’s confusing is that some great auto brands from Europe are under Stellantis (Peugeot and Citroen at least)
And they’re actually not doing a shitty job in designing or selling their vehicles. It’s mainly the Chrysler brands or basically the US brands under Stellantis. I seriously hope the shit happening in Chrysler doesn’t come trickling down to the other brands
Turns out regulations are good for businesses.
Regulations are definitely excellent for both businesses and consumers in the long term. But businesses are often too stupid to see past ANYTHING “quarterly”.
That depends on the business culture and how good their advisors are. And also the size if the business matter.
But yeah generally angelosaxton companies who have a mangement structure that’s way more in depth than it needs to be fuck these things over
“Either the Line Goes Up or the Rope Goes Up” - evil CEOs everywhere
They’re good for longevity, but they’re bad for quarterly profits. In the US, we care much more for the latter.
Peugeot and Citroën have their own issues in Europe (and technically in America) with the recall of car due to defective airbags.
Out of curiosity, who would you buy from?
Out of the American big three, I have the most confidence in Ford. I’ve worked with engineers at all three, and the ones at Ford are the ones that I felt were most compitent.
That being said, my next car will probably be a Toyota or a Subaru. Both way better than the American OEMs.
Jeep Renegade is a rebadged Fiat 500L.
It’ll be less than a decade
I had two Jeeps, first was originally my dad’s. It was an old shitbox. The other one was a somewhat old shitbox. 1998 & 2010. We dumped more time and money into them than I’d care to admit.
