The mainstream press failed to accurately describe the hand gesture that Elon Musk made twice at Trump’s Inauguration Day rally, setting a troubling precedent for the second Trump era.

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    3 days ago

    I spent the larger part of the day trying to convince my sister. I don’t think it worked and now I’m just depressed about it.

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      Have you shown her the side-by-side GIF of him doing the same move as the H-man? There’s another one where it shows him doing it exactly like a group of neo-nazis on a street demonstration. Mirror image.

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        I don’t think it will help because she said if you watch the whole Video from he perspective it looks like just an awkward gesture

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          I think watching the video of just him in isolation leaves room for interpretation because people think of Nazi salutes from movies, etc. plus I think a lot of people don’t want to believe that Musk would do this and want to give him the benefit of the doubt. However, when you see him doing it synchronized side by side with H-man and modern neo-Nazis and it looks like he literally practiced the exact movement with them, I think it removes any opportunity for benefit of the doubt.

          Edit: here’s the video I’m referring to: https://x.com/esjesjesj/status/1881716580876497257

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      As someone whose mother is a goddamned orange supporter, just implement a no-politics rule to save your relationship.

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        At this point I don’t know if I want a relationship. I joke all the time about getting adopted by a progressive family maybe with a conservative uncle or two.

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          I’ve been saying that voting for the orange makes her somewhat of a bad person. Maybe not the first time because there could be plausible deniability, but this time, there was a lot of information. This is why I might stop talking to her.

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        A working relationship may be based on mutual understanding, support, values, love.
        If it’s not working, it can hardly be saved by being based on only sharing some genetics.
        Love it, change it or leave it can very well be applied to relationships.
        Why would a sane person want to save a relationship to racist, mysogynist, hateful, spiteful, vengeful assholes by simply not letting them show what assholes they are (but yet knowing they are) in the first place?

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          Because she protected me (as best she could) from an abusive father. I’m still considering whether I’ll cut off contact for voting for that piece of shit, but come on, I still love her. Wtf.

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            Strange how she had the empathy to protect you, but no empathy to protect all those endangered by the Donvict.
            As long as you have the energy, try to change it - her view, your view of her view, whatever is possible and helps.
            If all fails, you try something else.
            All the best!

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              Strange how she had the empathy to protect you, but no empathy to protect all those endangered by the Donvict.

              That’s the thing. She has empathy for people she knows; not for people she hasn’t met and can’t imagine.

              Trans people? The Gays? Who could think of that lifestyle?! /s

              Also plugged into Fox “News”.

              I’m out of energy for accommodating her ideology. Thank you for the kind words.

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                That’s the key, you just have to get her to stop ingesting the poison.

                My father in law watches Fox news. Whenever he comes to visit us in Europe he spends the whole time oo’ing and ah’ing about life here and swears he understands that Fox news is propaganda.

                Then he goes back home and two weeks later my mother in law is complaining that he’s got brain worms again because he started watching Fox to get Both Sides™.

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          If it’s not working, it can hardly be saved by being based on only sharing some genetics.

          Finally… Blood is thicker than Deez nutz