Yeah! Just because a racist, fascist douchebag does a seig heil doesn’t mean you should tell obvious big mean old lies about him being a Nazi!

You tell those woke mind virus victims, Joe!

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    I’m noticing that being a “man’s man” seems to correlate with being a bootlicker.

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      Anti intellectualism and submitting to fascist authority both align with machismo culture.

      Moat of them have been trained from a very young age by their religious leaders to beleive anything without proof and that malice is the most effective and moral way to obtain dopamine.

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        A good soldier asks no questions and dies without hesitation for the cause. Squads, legions, whole army’s even.

        The cause? Usually always someones greed

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      And extreme toxicity to the point that it drives everyone away from them so they just start with some Olympic level mental gymnastics to explain why it’s not their fault people hate them.

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    I still can’t for the life of me figure out why anyone gives a shit about what Joe Rogan says. We need to stop giving monumentally stupid people such large platforms.

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      He’s popular because of long-format, uncensored interviews with interesting people in en era of heavy media manipulation and short form propaganda. It’s not that hard to understand why he has a large audience. The amount of push back from people complaining about him “platforming” people they disagree with further adds to the appeal. People want free expression and exchange of ideas, not censorial hall monitors with holier-than-thou attitudes who think they know better than you.

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        The problem is meathead Joe Rogan lets his guests tell cool stories about their experiences to gain an audience, then proceeds to express the stupidest fucking thoughts imaginable to all those people from the gaping anus that serves as his mouth.

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          He’s the first person to say not to listen to him. I don’t have an issue with people expressing their opinions even if they’re as mean as this; usually folks are nicer about it when it’s in person and not online.

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        My problem is he uncritically accepts bullshit gecause he has no idea. When he was ypunger he was more willing to change.

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        long-format, uncensored interviews with interesting people in en era of heavy media manipulation and short form propaganda.

        There seem to be lots of options for that these days. He’s not so unique anymore.

        But he built up such a large audience.

        I use to casually watch select episodes where the guest was someone cool or interesting. And the fringe topics could be fun.

        But now… bleh. It’s all too self aware and shot with bullshit now.

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          Sure that’s fair. There is a lot of bullshit from a lot of places these days. You’ve gotta be able to filter it for yourself. You don’t have to agree with every position someone has on every single political issue.

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            That’s exactly what I use to do. I’ve never agreed with all his opinions. But it went from “we just have different perspectives” to “I can’t tolerate this nonsense, willful ignorance, etc, etc.”

            He really changed. He went from a lunkhead you could assume had his heart in the right place, even if he said dumb ignorant shit, to someone who’s spreading toxic ideologies that “other” people and sow broad and deep distrust in our institutions. — It’s beyond musing about conspiracy theories and talking about “they.” Now it’s active agenda laden conspiracy proselytization.

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      Whether or not you or I care what he has to say doesn’t change that he has a huge audience of people who do care and if we just tune him out instead of rebutting his crazy shit he’ll go completely unchecked.

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        There’s an argument to be made that just engaging his bullshit gives it weight. Something about arguing with a pig just gets you pulled into the mud and the pig likes it or somesuch. (I know, I butchered that saying).

        I honestly prefer the angle of “Oh, you listen to Joe Rogan. Then clearly your opinion is of no consequence and I want nothing with you”.

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          And people wonder how the Democrats lost in 2024.

          “Oh this person did one thing that isn’t permanent and they could possibly have their viewpoints changed if they were around people like me who disagree with them? Nah I’m going to tell them that because they listen to a podcast of a guy I hate that I think everything about them is wrong and then I will never speak to them again.”

          The only way to stop the young men and women from getting sucked down there pipeline into the alt right dude bro bullshit is to fucking talk to them like they are humans that can make mistakes. When you write them off entirely instantly without even a second thought you are robbing everyone involved of the potential for personal growth and understanding.

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            “Bigotry is bad and you should feel bad.”

            “What, so people can’t make mistakes anymore? So much for the ‘tolerant left’.” And then they double down, because feeling bad is for liberal pussies.

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            Ironically, Marc Andreessen was on the JRE podcast and brought up that the new “woke” stuff essentially functions as a cult or neo-religion without a concept of forgiveness.

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              The only people I hear talking about “woke nonsense” are white people who are upset that the world is changing.

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              The scariest part is they often either cannot see it or they can see it and they just don’t care how cultish it is.

              I hate the term “woke” because it’s wrapped up in so much pedantic bullshit now, but yeah.

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      Key word is “watching”. They’re more than happy to have an audience as long as they get what they want. And they do and they are.

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    When your podcast accepts Nazis on your show … your show is Nazi propaganda

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      More accurately, when your podcast accepts nazi’s on your show… and you let them go off on rants and you don’t push back on them… your show is nazi propoganda.

      It’s perfectly reasonable for a show to have horrific people on… so long as they loudly are showing “No that is bullshit, here’s why that is bullshit!”.

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    Do people always forget how the story about crying wolf ends? A real fuckin wolf shows up. Rips the kid to sheds. Horrible ending.

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      An entire town decided that they’d have a child act as the monitor for a known threat; he makes two mistakes and then they stop believing him as he does the job the town put him there to do. At no point does anyone decide, “hey, maybe we should put two kids up there… just in case.”

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        It would have been to progressive to not use child labor. They likely didn’t respect his job because they considered it unskilled. All he did was stand at the door at Costco and check for membership cards.

        Oh wait…

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    Joe is operating in bad faith here.

    Q: At what point can we call a spade a spade and they’d agree?

    A: Never

    Even if we were literally rounding Jews up into boxcars and shipping them off to be killed in ovens, the republicans would be like “OH, SO WE JUST CALL EVERYONE NAZIS NOW”.

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    Joe does not rely on facts he relies on his talent to hold conversation and trap people to agreeing with his opinions. He spews the biggest bunch of horse shit. I am from Southern Africa, I listend to a podcast where he was talking about cheetahs. Yeah he had no idea and talking garbage about how cheetahs behave. That’s when my suspicions about him were verified and I was like fuck this guy. Don’t support this douche.

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    Joe Rogan defending a billionaire for doing a overt nazi salute in public? Crazy. Who could have seen this coming.

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    Yeah, remember when people would say that qons could be literally goosestepping for their orange dickhead (or someone else standing in for the same role they are so very thirsty to worship) and they’d still be gaslighting about it?

    The real president just threw Nazi salutes, and here we are…

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      It’s similar to their regular “you call everything racism” bullshit. They really do seem to believe that acknowledging what they are doing is unfair to them.

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    Joe Rogan is a meathead.

    Close your eyes and imagine a meathead.

    That’s Joe Rogan.

    Only a fool would listen to what Joe Rogan has to say because only fools listen to meatheads.

    Unfortunately, we live in an age where meatheads are idolized by millions of people. Because our educational systems have failed. Because many, if not most, humans were simply not ready for the internet.

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        Come on can we not use that type of word. Can’t we make fun of him for his terrible beliefs and not his IQ, I know plenty of lower intelligent people who are not Nazi sympathizers.

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          No one ever said he’s a Nazi sympathizer because he’s stupid. He’s a Nazi sympathizer and he’s stupid.

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            Come on just because because people are of lower intelligence doesn’t mean you should blanket grenade them with slurs, your hurting innocent people with your speech.

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              Who exactly am I hurting by saying Joe Rogan is stupid? His asshole fans?

              And am I hurting assholes by saying his fans are assholes?

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                  Can you show any evidence that people in any significant number find the word ‘stupid’ to be hurtful to a whole group of people?

                  Because in my 47 years, this is the first time I have ever heard anyone anywhere claim that ‘stupid’ is a generally offensive word that hurts people as a group.

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              The man is a billionaire. He’s not being hurt by people piling on. He’s winning.

              It sucks to give people shit for their flaws. This isn’t quite that. He became a billionaire despite being dumber than a rock.

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    I feel dumber just having read that. Apparently pointing out that someone made a Nazi salute is covering for the fact that … checks notes … you’re an asshole. The fact that this village idiot is popular is truly a damning indictment of America.

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    These people play the “left is always over reacting” but they would carry water for Elon no matter how damming the evidence. They’ve shown they don’t care about evidence or reality its all vibes to them.