This was originally written as a reply for this thread: https://lemmy.world/post/19238577

I’m copying it here because I don’t trust a LW admin to just not delete it right away since that seems to be something they love doing.

tl;dr - a user calls out the LW mods for rapid fire banning a bunch of users today, I investigate

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Let’s review some of these bans, as called out by ChomskyWasRight@slrpunk.net:

https://lemm.ee/post/40926293/14446156

https://imgur.com/YSoJbgs

From the top:

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LagrangePoint@lemmy.world https://imgur.com/4XsXuOC

Quote: "LW admin/mod team seem to have this overbearing and weird belief that they need to tell everyone else what to think and how to think it. How about… you all just fuck off and don’t?

Result: Permaban

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aniki@lemmings.world https://imgur.com/LIye27F

Quote: “All rights are won through violence, child. Bans on here means less than the nothing platitudes you utter”

Result: 15 day ban

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catloaf@lemm.ee https://imgur.com/ONGdgNo

Quote: [the quote is really long, pls dont make me type it and just look at the link lol]

Result: 15 day ban

Note: the comment precedes the ban by 26 days, but catloaf’s recent comment history contains opinions critical of the LW News mod team

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DoctorButts@kbin.melroy.org https://imgur.com/q2kktNQ

Quote: “Damn what a shame, guy almost stopped being a moderator on an internet forum, would have been a grave tragedy”

Result: Permaban

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stormesp@lemm.ee https://imgur.com/ZCRtuJe

Stormesp’s profile at lemm.ee: https://lemm.ee/u/stormesp

Quote: [there were no comments removed in the modlog, but stormesp’s recent comment history contains opinions critical of the LW News mod team, read them yourself]

Result: 15 day ban

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MindTraveller@lemmy.ca https://imgur.com/YwIMSOq

Quotes: [multiple quotes, there are a lot, check out the link]

Result: 15 day ban

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Summary

Most interestingly here is that the two users who got permabanned didn’t use slurs and didn’t call for violence, they merely insulted the moderator team. I guess in the LW News mod team’s eyes, that’s a horrible, terrible, awful, unforgivable offense, so… PERMABAN.

Aniki literally is saying “words are useless, let’s resort to violence” but that’s a 15 day ban only, OK, makes sense, right???

Catloaf and Stormesp were actively leaving comments sparring with the moderator team in that thread. To be honest, none of what I’m seeing in these comment seems worthy of a ban. Unless of course, you’re a LW mod and you go “this guy is disagreeing with me, therefore they deserve a ban.”

Edit: I forgot to write about MindTraveller since that guy douchecanoe was a last minute addition. But look at those aggressive comments, guy douchecanoe deserves a ban for sure.

Edit 2: fixed pronouns for MindTraveller

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Conclusion

Not a good look. Does LW want to grow into a good Reddit alternative or do they just want to turn it into Reddit for themselves only?

LW can at least come clean about this and say “yes, the rest of you can get fucked” or maybe they will have a moment of realization at some point “oh my god, are we the baddies?”

  • CursedOPEnglish
    82·
    17 days ago

    I’m not sure why that’s such a difficult concept for some people.

    Point taken, but come on, you should know why it is difficult.

    This is a pie chart of the community distribution:

    https://lemmy.ca/post/26878531

    Notice which ones have the biggest shares? World, .ml, and Hexbear - three of possibly the shittest instances on Fedi at the moment.

    Unfortunately until communities outside of LW become more lively, if most people are looking for drive-by discussion, they will find it at LW. For now.

    In order to change that, we can all chip in to start livening up communities outside LW, like Blaze seems to be doing.

    • Blaze@feddit.orgEnglish
      7·
      17 days ago

      World, .ml, and Hexbear

      I would focus more on the second listing which has 57 for LW, 10 for lemmy.ml and 5 for SJW

      Hexbear only has 1

      I’m kind of impressed lemm.ee has even 3 top 100 communities due to the predominance of LW.

      Also, I just had a look again. The 100th monthly community is starwars memes, and I count at least 2 sopuli communities above, !memes@sopuli.xyz and !ukraine@sopuli.xyz

      we can all chip in to start livening up communities outside LW

      Indeed, as always, feel free to join us on !fedigrow@lemm.ee

    • Gamma@beehaw.orgEnglish
      3·
      17 days ago

      Unfortunately until communities outside of LW become more lively, if most people are looking for drive-by discussion, they will find it at LW. For now.

      Be the change you want to be. Building communities is hard work!

      • Blaze@feddit.orgEnglish
        7·
        17 days ago

        Building communities is hard work!

        Tell me about it.

        Also, as you are on Beehaw, do you think there is any chance that you guys would refederate with LW and SJW?

        • Gamma@beehaw.orgEnglish
          3·
          17 days ago

          🤷 Word is we’re eventually moving to Sublinks, not sure if that’ll change anything

          • Blaze@feddit.orgEnglish
            3·
            17 days ago

            Not sure either, Beehaw could move to Mbin tomorrow, the point would still stand: do you consider refederating 😄

            At the moment it’s a bit frustrating because while Beehaw communities are nice (hu hu), knowing that posting there will prevent LW and SJW people from seeing your post can demotivate potential posters.

            • Gamma@beehaw.orgEnglish
              2·
              17 days ago

              I agree! I have a guest account for lw in Voyager, but I still mostly browse here.